People with uprated top and lower engine mount

1. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #1 9th February 2009, 09:03

   Morning All,
   
   Looking to here from people who have both mount done on there Saxo.
   
   I no replacing the lower engine mount, with the uprated Powerflex one, gives off a little vibration. What i want to know is, if you have replaced the top engine mount with a Group N one and did it elimate all the vibrating altogether, or did it make it worse.
   
   Is it worth having the combation of 2, or just one of them?
   
   Thanks
   
   Leesoy
2. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #2 9th February 2009, 09:06

   eliminated for me and ron, makes car solid, a bit hard if just going to be for road use imo
   also run the dreaded risk of snapping the casing off the top of your gearbox, as some members already have done.
3. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #3 9th February 2009, 09:12

   So it maybe only worth using the lower engine mount then, which isnt had hard as the top one.
4. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #4 9th February 2009, 09:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by leeroybrown So it maybe only worth using the lower engine mount then, which isnt had hard as the top one.

   i would just stick with the lower.
   the vibrations are only on idle really tbh and its not that bad.
5. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #5 9th February 2009, 09:54

   Cheers
   
   Will Scrap the uprated top one idea then
6. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #6 9th February 2009, 10:18

   top one will make the women enjoy there "ride" more
   
   haha, if your fitting the group n ecu one youll want to fit the g/box one as well!
7. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

   #7 9th February 2009, 10:20

   Just the lower engine mount on JP.
   
   I wanna use the car everyday without having to smash my teeth together just to get to work :}
8. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #8 9th February 2009, 10:39

   steve - thought you just had the 2 gearbox mounts?
   
   leeroy, mine top grp n mount made my car vibrate like fuck. dash nearly fell out haha
9. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #9 9th February 2009, 12:33

   haha williams its almost impossible to speak to the passenger with them in, bring it on
10. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #10 9th February 2009, 12:33

    Decision made then
    
    I wanna keep my teeth lol
11. jaybiss Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Jul 2004 Solihull Posts: 18231 Two Tone Sax

    #11 9th February 2009, 12:47

    i use a lower powerflex and it only vibrates the car when its cold and is idleing at just above 1k rpm
    
    when its warm there is no vibrations at all as the car idles under 1k rpm

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12. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #12 9th February 2009, 12:53

    Makes ya engine feel solid like said. But on the cold start ups the whole dash vibrates LOADS and u can hear it outside the car on mine vibrating, abit like a sub when its up loud vibrating the dash.
    
    Thats with Grp N upper and lower mounts btw, i well reccomend it though!

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13. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #13 9th February 2009, 12:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jaybiss i use a lower powerflex and it only vibrates the car when its cold and is idleing at just above 1k rpm when its warm there is no vibrations at all as the car idles under 1k rpm

    pretty much the same as jays... I won't be uprating the upper mounts, it vibrates at idle but I'm rarely idling. Either way it's not bother.
    
    But the improvements it offers change the feel of the car considerably...

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14. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #14 9th February 2009, 12:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax Makes ya engine feel solid like said. But on the cold start ups the whole dash vibrates LOADS and u can hear it outside the car on mine vibrating, abit like a sub when its up loud vibrating the dash. Thats with Grp N upper and lower mounts btw, i well reccomend it though!

    mine doesnt rattle at all
15. saxo_ron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 3017 Honda DC5, Gruppe M and j's racing

    #15 9th February 2009, 13:14

    Ive got the powerflex lower engine mount and a grp N gearboxmount and I suffer from zero rattles in my car. Adding the grp N actually got rid of some rattles.
16. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #16 9th February 2009, 13:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS mine doesnt rattle at all

    because you dont have the ecu mount.
17. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #17 9th February 2009, 13:34

    I'm happy with just the Powerflex lower tbh. Get a little vibration through the wheel on idle and a few rattles when pulling away, but that's it.
    
    The engine has bugger all swing with the Powerflex lower fitted so I don't see what advantage the upper gearbox makes.
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 9th February 2009, 13:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts because you dont have the ecu mount.

    and? lol
19. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #19 9th February 2009, 13:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH I'm happy with just the Powerflex lower tbh. Get a little vibration through the wheel on idle and a few rattles when pulling away, but that's it. The engine has bugger all swing with the Powerflex lower fitted so I don't see what advantage the upper gearbox makes.

    
    just over exagerate the upper mounts, imagine the standard upper ones as, a pillow and the uprated grp N's as solid metal, the standard ones will give the engine more freedom to rise etc, when cornering and stuff.
20. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #20 9th February 2009, 13:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS and? lol

    ECU one makes the most difference apparently.
21. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #21 9th February 2009, 13:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax ECU one makes the most difference apparently.

    al probably be getting one once my contact has developed them
    
    dont know what difference it would make now though, engine barely moves at all tbh lol
22. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #22 9th February 2009, 13:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS and? lol

    thats why you didnt have any rattles.
23. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #23 9th February 2009, 13:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts thats why you didnt have any rattles.

    which is a good thing no? lol
24. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #24 9th February 2009, 13:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS al probably be getting one once my contact has developed them dont know what difference it would make now though, engine barely moves at all tbh lol

    How much they gonna be selling at?
25. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #25 9th February 2009, 13:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax How much they gonna be selling at?

    not be expensive, got the last lot for £26 delivered
    
    were you not in the group buy and bought the 106 s1 ecu by mistake?
    His project atm is making diffs to be cheaper than quaffe so be some time before he gets onto these.
26. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #26 9th February 2009, 13:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS which is a good thing no? lol

    stating yours doesnt rattle coz you havent got all the N mounts.
27. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #27 9th February 2009, 13:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts stating yours doesnt rattle coz you havent got all the N mounts.

    good statement
28. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #28 9th February 2009, 13:42

    So when are monkey motorsport starting production of these Group N mounts?
29. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #29 9th February 2009, 13:42

    Thanks for the comments guys
30. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #30 9th February 2009, 13:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS not be expensive, got the last lot for £26 delivered were you not in the group buy and bought the 106 s1 ecu by mistake? His project atm is making diffs to be cheaper than quaffe so be some time before he gets onto these.

    I got my lower mount and the B82REZ mount at the same time, jst before the group buy. Then my mate linked me to the S1 ECU mount on ebay, n i bought it without reading the description lol. Sold that now anyway.
    
    Do they do the b82rez mounts in the grp N kits?
    
    Il deffo have this grp N mount btw once u made it in ya shed.
31. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #31 9th February 2009, 13:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH So when are monkey motorsport starting production of these Group N mounts?

    made some solid lower mounts before, for s blue vts turbo, was in performance gti a couple year ago. havent got time at them min to make any.
32. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #32 9th February 2009, 13:45

    steve - whos 'developing' these mounts then? that a posh word for group buy?
33. leeroybrown Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2006 Durham Posts: 16000 Clio Trophy 025/500

    #33 9th February 2009, 13:46

    Steve
    
    It must be hard as well on cold up then is it?
34. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #34 9th February 2009, 13:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax I got my lower mount and the B82REZ mount at the same time, jst before the group buy. Then my mate linked me to the S1 ECU mount on ebay, n i bought it without reading the description lol. Sold that now anyway. Do they do the b82rez mounts in the grp N kits? Il deffo have this grp N mount btw once u made it in ya shed.

    b82rez = the battery mount? lol
35. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #35 9th February 2009, 13:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS b82rez = the battery mount? lol

    i was trying to save time
    
    ali G
36. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #36 9th February 2009, 13:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts steve - whos 'developing' these mounts then? that a posh word for group buy?

    no, the guy actually makes them.
    They mainly do 205 rally parts, but now do 106's/saxos and other cars, guys spot on tbh.
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by leeroybrown Steve It must be hard as well on cold up then is it?

    not really feels the same tbh
    there isnt a massive difference when the uppers fitted, just something feels different to make you notice its there, cant really describe it.
    Only thing with it is i am very causious where i drive especially with pot holes after seeing photos on rallyereg/ssc where the top of the gearbox has ripped off.
37. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #37 9th February 2009, 13:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS no, the guy actually makes them. They mainly do 205 rally parts, but now do 106's/saxos and other cars, guys spot on tbh.

    is it baker Bushes?
    http://www.bakerbm.com/106.php?data=engkitn106
38. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #38 9th February 2009, 13:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax is it baker Bushes? http://www.bakerbm.com/106.php?data=engkitn106

    thats not him, but they are cheap lol
39. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #39 9th February 2009, 13:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS thats not him, but they are cheap lol

    yeh they aint bad, thats who i got my mounts from.
    
    Also used a different name ages ago, cant rmemeebr though sumthing like 106sport/106 racing, pugracing/pugsport.