EGR removal question

1. paulmcc Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Peebles Posts: 25 '99 t reg black ford ka 51 plate Saxo VTS in gol

   #1 13th February 2009, 18:26

   nyways i got my EGR blanking plate yesterday and went to fit it today.
   
   has anyone got photos of what they removed? and what the pipe leeds to on the passenger front behind the bumper?
   
   also will it bring the engine management light on?
2. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #2 13th February 2009, 20:28

   it goes to a pump in the fronto f the wheel arch, pass corner of bumper.
   it wont bring ecu light on.
3. blackie_2k5 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2008 Birtley Posts: 22253 VTR Turbo, 106 xsi track slag, Transit recovery, B

   #3 13th February 2009, 21:06

   does this actually even do anything, ive heard it does absolutely bolox all
4. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

   #4 13th February 2009, 21:08

   I just cut the pipe as low as I could get it..
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 13th February 2009, 23:06

   you need to block it off as it goes into the exhaust ports.
   no, it doesnt do anything.
6. user_12053 Established Member Joined: Oct 2006 S-o-T, Staffordshire Posts: 1220 99 Saxo VTR, 2002 VTS

   #6 13th February 2009, 23:25

   Any particular reason to take it off? I have bought a blanking plate already..... just jumped on the good ol bandwagon cos everyone was buying them... lol
   (Though im not normally one for being a sheep haha)
   
   But whats the theory behind removing the EGR? Is it a case of its does nothing so shouldnt be there?!?! Why did Citroen fit one? Purtely for emissions? But if its only on for a few seconds at start up on a cold engine I cant see what difference it would make to emissions overall.... hmmmm
7. paulmcc Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Peebles Posts: 25 '99 t reg black ford ka 51 plate Saxo VTS in gol

   #7 13th February 2009, 23:38

   i bought one to tidy the engine bay up lol but my work mate said the fuel consumption would go up and that the engine management light would come on so god know but il report if i notice any difference
8. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #8 13th February 2009, 23:46

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Jorge- I just cut the pipe as low as I could get it..

   Keep following the pipe until you get to the pump, then remove that too.
9. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

   #9 13th February 2009, 23:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by paulmcc i bought one to tidy the engine bay up lol but my work mate said the fuel consumption would go up and that the engine management light would come on so god know but il report if i notice any difference

   No, no, no.
   
   As Williams has already said, the engine management light will NOT illuminate. It's not an EGR valve either, it's a device which pumps air into the intake to help warm the CAT during start up. It's all to do with the tighter emission laws that came in, as it apparently helps reduce CO2 levels during the start up... In theory, it could help performance by removing it, but it would be a very small amout if any.
10. paulmcc Newbie Joined: Dec 2008 Peebles Posts: 25 '99 t reg black ford ka 51 plate Saxo VTS in gol

    #10 14th February 2009, 00:13

    lol well i dont need it then because i got rid of the Cat so happy days, MOT is not till November
11. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #11 14th February 2009, 00:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad No, no, no. As Williams has already said, the engine management light will NOT illuminate. It's not an EGR valve either, it's a device which pumps air into the intake to help warm the CAT during start up. It's all to do with the tighter emission laws that came in, as it apparently helps reduce CO2 levels during the start up... In theory, it could help performance by removing it, but it would be a very small amout if any.

    changed the engine note on my car thats it.
    When i get chance i am re fitting mine lol
12. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #12 14th February 2009, 01:25

    If you run with a CAT then that's a good idea.
13. Roper Established Member Joined: Feb 2006 Derbyshire Posts: 1815 Black 106 GTi Turbo

    #13 14th February 2009, 01:33

    it doesn't recirculate exhaust gases, so not an EGR valve.
    
    all it does is pump fresh air into the cylinder head for the first 10-20secs to help with emissions.
    
    i took mine off, no lights came on, ticked over fine and ran same as with it on.
    
    you need to remove the piece in front of the cam covers, then follow the pipes down to under the wheel arch and remove all the pump its self and bracket. then just use the piece of steel you bought to blank off the hole on the side of the head
    
    job done.
    
    oh and unplug the pump and put the disconnnected wire somewhere where it wont get wet and is secure. thats all i did,
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 14th February 2009, 10:51

    i just fitted a head that didnt use it so had to remove it.
15. Toad Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can

    #15 14th February 2009, 20:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts i just fitted a head that didnt use it so had to remove it.

    Ditto...
16. spiderxjz82 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2008 Northampton Posts: 193 VX220 S/C

    #16 12th April 2009, 15:06

    Where do you get your EGR blanking plates from for the VTR? THanks
17. ripstu Newbie Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 20 2001 saxo vtr write off(:() 2001 saxo vts

    #17 7th September 2010, 17:01

    i understand that if you remove this it does not send on the ecu light, but what if its not working, it seems to be what my fault code is reading
18. axsaxoman Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2003 Scotland Posts: 3380

    #18 7th September 2010, 18:43

    your nearly right about what it does .
    the extra air that is pumped in makes the lambda probe think its lean ,so it richens up and makes car run better while on strt up --thats all it does nothing else ,just a way to run it richer +still be within emission spec vwhen cold so it idles + drives better from cold start