Rear beam swap

1. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #1 14th February 2009, 13:19

   how hard is it can you do it yourself and any advice on it?
2. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #2 14th February 2009, 13:24

   easy as mate.
   
   done 2 now.
   
   In the middle of refurbing one to stick on mine.
   
   If your doing a direct swap looking at 2 hours work.
   Its 4 bolts holding the axle on then, handbrake cables (few minutes to detach)
   then unbolt brake lines.
   
   need 2 axle stands.
   few jacks
   brake line spanners
   decent rachet and socket set.
   
   can go into more depth if you want but you simply asked if its easy.
3. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #3 14th February 2009, 13:33

   will i be need double depth sockets at all? yeah its a direct swap abs disc beam for another abs disc beam. You know what the size of the brake line unions are? any help is appreciated
4. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #4 14th February 2009, 13:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush will i be need double depth sockets at all? yeah its a direct swap abs disc beam for another abs disc beam. You know what the size of the brake line unions are? any help is appreciated

   iirc10mm
   
   may as wel get the 10mm - 12mm spanner and 9mm - 11mm spanner from halfords.
   
   Need 1 double length socket to get to the axle nuts as the bolts fairly long, just a standard long socket which you get in a set will do, iirc its an 18mm or a 19mm
   
   piss easy straight swapping it mate
   
   there is blue clips for the abs around the axle you will see them they just unclip.
   
   Best thing is to just dive in and get going imo.
5. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

   #5 14th February 2009, 13:45

   Gav iv got to do mine this week, praying for good weather, get some pics up to add to the thread on shed
   
   Thanks steve
6. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #6 14th February 2009, 13:51

   shwelcome....
   
   i hate doing them in shit weather.
   
   MAN UP!
   
   lol 10pm at night in a street in the freezing cold ftw!
7. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

   #7 14th February 2009, 13:53

   lol feck that!
   
   Everyday i have had off for last month and half has either been raining or snowing, apart from yesterday but i cba
8. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #8 14th February 2009, 13:55

   nice ill be going out to get some more tools then
9. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #9 14th February 2009, 14:03

   cant think of anything else you need, but the brake line spanners are a worth while investment,
10. charlie106 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Derby Posts: 370 Icelandic grey VTR

    #10 14th February 2009, 14:10

    brake lines on the back are 11mm and the bleed nipple is 8mm
11. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

    #11 14th February 2009, 14:12

    Iirc Alex sayed that you can get the beam off without having to take the brakes apart from the brake lines, saving the hassle of bleeding them etc when refitting, just requires some thinking
12. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #12 14th February 2009, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo Iirc Alex sayed that you can get the beam off without having to take the brakes apart from the brake lines, saving the hassle of bleeding them etc when refitting, just requires some thinking

    yeah you can take the calipers off the rear, the brake line brackets off the beam etc
    your choice really i find it eaasier to take the brake lines off and just re bleed the brakes.
    
    Never removed rear calipers yet.
13. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

    #13 14th February 2009, 14:20

    Steve/Anyone, If I were to whack a VTR beam on a 1.1 would this become more difficult? It's not got the ABS things like on a VTS so I don't have to worry about that, would there be any other potential problems etc?
14. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #14 14th February 2009, 14:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sax_Dan Steve/Anyone, If I were to whack a VTR beam on a 1.1 would this become more difficult? It's not got the ABS things like on a VTS so I don't have to worry about that, would there be any other potential problems etc?

    should just go straight on mate.
    Not sure if the 1.1 axle has a bias valve or not???
    if not then you may need new brake lines, alex_vts will be able to confirm as sure hes swapped one.
    
    But should just bolt straight on, will need new handbrake cables £12 iirc as they are different looking at the drum axle i have in my garage that i am stripping down to put disc arms on it.

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15. charlie106 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Derby Posts: 370 Icelandic grey VTR

    #15 14th February 2009, 14:23

    just had my beam refurbished last week
    
    
    
    
16. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #16 14th February 2009, 14:27

    how much that cost you young charles?
17. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

    #17 14th February 2009, 14:33

    Ok mate, that's great cheers.
18. charlie106 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Derby Posts: 370 Icelandic grey VTR

    #18 14th February 2009, 14:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS how much that cost you young charles?

    £300 new bearings, seals, and stubs! + lowerd it 40mm in with the price
19. Lozza_vtr Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Sunny Essex!! Posts: 2342 VW Golf Mk4 1.8T

    #19 14th February 2009, 15:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by charlie106 £300 new bearings, seals, and stubs! + lowerd it 40mm in with the price

    Looks tidy, who done it for you?
20. charlie106 Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Derby Posts: 370 Icelandic grey VTR

    #20 14th February 2009, 15:13

    a place called retro revival near nuneaton. it says £375 on website but i emailed them for a quote n got it for £300
    
    http://www.retro-revival.co.uk/rearbeam.html
21. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #21 14th February 2009, 15:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FinchysSaxo Iirc Alex sayed that you can get the beam off without having to take the brakes apart from the brake lines, saving the hassle of bleeding them etc when refitting, just requires some thinking

    if thats the case then thats what I will be doing
22. FinchysSaxo Established Member Joined: Dec 2006 Buckinghamshire Posts: 2087 Megane F1 R26 Liquid Yellow

    #22 14th February 2009, 16:13

    yer drop alex a pm, he shall tell you the method mate
23. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #23 14th February 2009, 16:31

    didnt you turbo your 1.1? if so a beam should be a piece of piss!