Understeer

1. sexysaxogirl Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 Kent Posts: 500 Silver Saxo VTR

   #1 15th February 2009, 17:57

   hi peeps got my saxo down 60mm on spax psx adjustable suspension but it seems to under steer like a bitch is there any think i can do to get rid of it?? could it be my tiyres on front there cheap budgets?
2. alexsmith Established Member Joined: Dec 2007 blakwood Posts: 1364 206 gti 180

   #2 15th February 2009, 17:58

   drive slower haha only jokin
3. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

   #3 15th February 2009, 18:36

   Could try making the front dampers a bit softer, psx are adjustable. Decent front tyres would help too obviously, and driving slower.
   
   Roads are pretty dodgy around here at the moment tbh.
4. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #4 15th February 2009, 18:40

   strut braces? polyflex bushes?
5. GreenSaxo Saxperience Addict Joined: Dec 2002 Ashford, Kent, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 12835 Cammed Saxo "desire" 16v

   #5 15th February 2009, 18:41

   its probably the roads. they are really greasy...
6. fastsaxo7 Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2008 rotherham Posts: 440 saxo 1.4

   #6 15th February 2009, 19:13

   my saxo is pants in this weather wait till its warm then try it lol
7. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #7 15th February 2009, 19:23

   new tyres might be an idea. top and bottom strut braces, new bushes, drive smoother
8. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #8 15th February 2009, 19:45

   shit tyres + shit weather + cornering hard = understeer!
9. user_21524 Established Member Joined: Feb 2008 wirral Posts: 2087 saxo vtr mk2

   #9 15th February 2009, 19:46

   lsd.....
10. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #10 15th February 2009, 20:52

    thicker rear anti roll bar.
11. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #11 15th February 2009, 21:38

    the front end is too stiff. you need to soften the front or make the rear stiffer.
    
    if they are adjustable shocks get them on the softest setting and see how that affects the handling
12. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

    #12 15th February 2009, 21:40

    if you have budget tyres, chop em in @ a partworn place and buy some decent rubber.
13. guinea01 Newbie Joined: Oct 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 11 Citroen Saxo 1.1i

    #13 6th March 2009, 21:13

    tbh the best idea is to buy some decent tyres my saxo handled like shit so I got some better tyres and it sticks to the road like glue even in the rain and its not even lowerd (Y)
14. ocktovts Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Swindon Posts: 129 MK2 VTS

    #14 6th March 2009, 21:48

    get some toyo's on the front
15. Jordy6969 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1161 My bike

    #15 6th March 2009, 22:05

    yer i have mine lowered about 60mm on rear and its been understeering alot recently, i think saxo's probably handle best lowered at about 35/40mm, is this about right?
16. user_30915 Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 yatton/bristol Posts: 153 mk1 vtr mk5 golf fsi

    #16 7th March 2009, 08:56

    get some toyos or yoko on the front
17. Colin Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2006 Banbury Posts: 4623 Saxo Rally Car Evo 6

    #17 7th March 2009, 10:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by guinea01 tbh the best idea is to buy some decent tyres my saxo handled like shit so I got some better tyres and it sticks to the road like glue even in the rain and its not even lowerd (Y)

    Thats because all cars handle better at standard height. Citroen made it that height for a reason lol.
18. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

    #18 7th March 2009, 11:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Colin Thats because all cars handle better at standard height. Citroen made it that height for a reason lol.

    I dont think so lol.
    
    I think citroen thought it needs to handle well as well as being comfy.
19. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #19 7th March 2009, 12:13

    have you lowered the rear more than the front?
20. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

    #20 7th March 2009, 12:21

    Love all these people who are saying get better tyres etc etc
    
    I have Budget Durrun Sport 1's on mine and they are grippy as hell!!
    
    Much better than Toyo Proxe TR-1's ANd Michellen Exalto sports!
    
    Also have some budget Roadstone's before these and they wer great also.
    
    i have never had understeer in either of my saxo's
    
    One down 60mm at front and standard at the bk (lol)
    
    And my current one which is down 40mm all round and it oversteers, but no understeer....
    
    Maybe learn how to take a corner properly lol
21. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #21 7th March 2009, 14:12

    yours wont understeer as its lower at the front.
    if you want it lowered i'll do it for £40
22. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #22 7th March 2009, 14:50

    Reducing grip at the rear is no substitute for increasing it at the front
23. Pat_Vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 North London Posts: 6170 Land Rover Discovery

    #23 7th March 2009, 14:52

    or be a better driver and have balls and hold it in a drift style y0
    
    rwd VTS iv had a few times on bends LOL
24. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #24 7th March 2009, 14:57

    I found mine handled really well at standard height. It was a more controlled experience when the back end used to go light - bit harder to catch now it's down 40mm, does feel more planted tho.
25. shooorn94 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Midlands UK Posts: 4453 1.1??

    #25 7th March 2009, 15:36

    my car used to understeer at standard height with wider tyres at the front and standard vts dampers and springs up front but a 1.1 rear axle on 13 inch steelies . Yet since lowered tis fine. Never get any understeer or oversteer funny that..
26. OLLYVTS Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 West Sussex . Posts: 5690 Subaru Impreza Wrx

    #26 7th March 2009, 16:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pat_Vts or be a better driver and have balls and hold it in a drift style y0 rwd VTS iv had a few times on bends LOL

    rwd vts iv had a few times on the bends,lol how dose that work?
27. Mattt-VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2008 Warwick Posts: 2981 Vee-Tee-aar Mk 2

    #27 7th March 2009, 16:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OLLYVTS rwd vts iv had a few times on the bends,lol how dose that work?

    Your avatar is great!
28. Pat_Vts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 North London Posts: 6170 Land Rover Discovery

    #28 8th March 2009, 04:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OLLYVTS rwd vts iv had a few times on the bends,lol how dose that work?

    ermmmmm
    
    dnt ask me lol
    
    i jus know pump accleratoetr it keeps goin rwd lolz
    
    i aint drivn it tho nemre