cammed vts 0-60 + top end?

19th February 2009, 23:54

what does a cammed vts do 0-60 and top end, including other mods such as str8 thru exsaust, induction kit, remap??

answers please

20th February 2009, 00:09

60 in mid to high 6s maybe. top end will be the same

20th February 2009, 00:15

id say 7 ish tbh bullit

20th February 2009, 00:18

Top end will be higher if the rev limit is raised.

20th February 2009, 00:21

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Originally Posted by ryhornvtr

Top end will be higher if the rev limit is raised.

have you ever got to standard limiter in 5th??

20th February 2009, 00:24

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

have you ever got to standard limiter in 5th??

Would take one hell of a long road to do that, haha.

20th February 2009, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

have you ever got to standard limiter in 5th??

ye then i ended up in 1873 was well wierd lol

whats the quickest n/a engine ? as in what would be top spec

20th February 2009, 00:29

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Originally Posted by LeeumH

Would take one hell of a long road to do that, haha.

wouldnt do it
drag (both mechanical and aerodynamic) wouldnt really allow it unless you had silly power right to the limiter

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Originally Posted by DJVTR

ye then i ended up in 1873 was well wierd lol

whats the quickest n/a engine ? as in what would be top spec

something like ryans vtr tbh

20th February 2009, 00:31

about 220bhp is top spec 1.6 16v from the F2 saxos

that would comfortably cost £20K for the engine + gearbox

20th February 2009, 00:43

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

about 220bhp is top spec 1.6 16v from the F2 saxos

that would comfortably cost £20K for the engine + gearbox

what about a my car just dso i can dream

2001 mk2 furio with a mk1 vtr engine
i have the furio gearbox in

so what things could i do to it but keeping it n/a and what sort of figures would i get

thanks dude

20th February 2009, 00:53

how deep are your pockets and how impractical can it get??

20th February 2009, 07:18

the old vts could hit 60 in about 6.2 / 6.3secs and would pull off the clock (whatever that speed is.

20th February 2009, 08:30

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Originally Posted by KamRacing

about 220bhp is top spec 1.6 16v from the F2 saxos

that would comfortably cost £20K for the engine + gearbox

220bhp is not the top spec for this engine. This is the top spec for rally car because of the restrictions. There is drag racing prepared engines with much higher spec's than this.

20th February 2009, 08:51

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Originally Posted by nassso

220bhp is not the top spec for this engine. This is the top spec for rally car because of the restrictions. There is drag racing prepared engines with much higher spec's than this.

they are not n/a though are they?

20th February 2009, 08:55

I'am talking about N/A cars.

20th February 2009, 11:00

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Originally Posted by cj_99

they are not n/a though are they?

yes the series in which the saxo was in has restrcitions on the engine, so of course theres more out of the engine without the limitations.

20th February 2009, 13:00

my vts ran 5.9 sec 0-60

20th February 2009, 13:11

5.98 to 60mph is pretty quick

20th February 2009, 13:22

Andy's was more like a go-kart, probably a bit lighter though

20th February 2009, 13:28

car was full stripped with one fibreglass race seat 14inch wheels with toyo r888 tyres and standard size brakes

20th February 2009, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

have you ever got to standard limiter in 5th??

i have ,and it was on a vtr box

21st February 2009, 15:55

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Originally Posted by Alex-VTS

have you ever got to standard limiter in 5th??

yes.

A189 or A1 is long enough.

i done it on a private road though

21st February 2009, 20:08

alot of people say i lie when ive said that before

Do correct me if im wrong but thats 162mph ??

M4,between bridgend and porttalbot is long enough

i was on my privite race track though

21st February 2009, 20:21

Mine goes from 0-60 much faster than 7 secounds more like low 6's.

21st February 2009, 21:11

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Originally Posted by Japman

alot of people say i lie when ive said that before

Do correct me if im wrong but thats 162mph ??

M4,between bridgend and porttalbot is long enough

i was on my privite race track though

no where near 162 mate. clocks read just over 140.

21st February 2009, 21:14

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Originally Posted by williamsvts

no where near 162 mate. clocks read just over 140.

on a vts box though.

Although i question if a mildly tuned vts has the power to overcome drag etc... in order to obtain 160

21st February 2009, 21:16

And also, when you go past 7000rpm, there's not a lot of beans left, unless you're running fairly wild cams.

21st February 2009, 21:31

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Originally Posted by Toad

unless you're running fairly wild cams.

.....

21st February 2009, 21:34

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Originally Posted by Toad

And also, when you go past 7000rpm, there's not a lot of beans left, unless you're running fairly wild cams.

hence my comment about the limiter
mine stopped going at about 140ish just nothing left in it
plus how light the front goes much faster wont be too clever

21st February 2009, 23:08

I love all the 'private road' comments ... Wish I had my own private road.

21st February 2009, 23:13

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Originally Posted by Ferg

I love all the 'private road' comments ... Wish I had my own private road.

its called the m20 or m2 at 3am

21st February 2009, 23:21

Never been on a M.Way that late ... Still wouldn't want to do silly speeds just in case.

22nd February 2009, 22:12

mines called the A1 or A189 lol

22nd February 2009, 22:15

M27 between junctions 1 and 3. Virtually straight, and flat. Nowhere for rozzers to get you really, just do a sighting lap and give it some welly!

Andy

22nd February 2009, 22:23

dunno about 0-60 but my vts pulls all the way to redline in 5th gear and tops just under 140mph.

22nd February 2009, 22:51

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Originally Posted by williamsvts

no where near 162 mate. clocks read just over 140.

vtr box limits at 162,im pretty sure it is

im not on about what the clocks read

the limit of the box i meen

22nd February 2009, 23:05

thought you meant on a vts box mate.

23rd February 2009, 00:59

i'm all for speed, love it, but i get scared of being in a little french tin can doing more than 110 so i don't think i'd fancy 140 in it!

23rd February 2009, 01:04

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Originally Posted by williamsvts

thought you meant on a vts box mate.

no worries pal

i dont think a vts box is that good top end

just short of 145 i beleave

alough ive never need that on the flat

seen 140 on the flat

23rd February 2009, 08:38

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Originally Posted by williamsvts

mines called the A1 or A189 lol

what about the a19?

23rd February 2009, 08:54

just the very top bit of the A19, between moor farm and seaton burn, thats good for 140mph like.

23rd February 2009, 09:03

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Originally Posted by williamsvts

just the very top bit of the A19, between moor farm and seaton burn, thats good for 140mph like.

i did 138 the other day in the snow on my drive like.

24th February 2009, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Juz

i'm all for speed, love it, but i get scared of being in a little french tin can doing more than 110 so i don't think i'd fancy 140 in it!

try vauxhall nova at 130.....ten miles an hour less but ten times as scary!!!

24th February 2009, 19:50

i remember being in the back of my parent's 1.2 nova saloon, the doors sounded like they were going to rattle off at 80mph lol

24th February 2009, 20:45

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Originally Posted by smithdavidchris

try vauxhall nova at 130.....ten miles an hour less but ten times as scary!!!

had mine just over 150, that WAS scary.

25th February 2009, 14:00

to the people with 0 - 60 times of just under 7 seconds in a vts, is that just main breathing mod's or cam's etc?

25th February 2009, 14:01

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Originally Posted by tuft

to the people with 0 - 60 times of just under 7 seconds in a vts, is that just main breathing mod's or cam's etc?

I would almost certainly say with cams.

25th February 2009, 16:05

look at thread title

25th February 2009, 18:31

Ive got a video on an old phone of me doign a standing start to 60 and im fairly sure it was under 7 seconds. Mani, system, ind kit as mods

25th February 2009, 18:39

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Originally Posted by saxo_ron

Ive got a video on an old phone of me doign a standing start to 60 and im fairly sure it was under 7 seconds. Mani, system, ind kit as mods

why dont you share it with us then

25th February 2009, 18:40

most cars will do 60 quicker than book times anyway

25th February 2009, 18:44

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Originally Posted by vts-luke

why dont you share it with us then

its on my old phone and seeing as im bored to buggery I may just do that

**edit** looked for the phone but cant find the battery nor am I sure if this is my old phone or the missus ( we both had same phone) will try and dig it out when she gets in the night

7th March 2009, 14:17

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Originally Posted by Ryan

on a vts box though.

Although i question if a mildly tuned vts has the power to overcome drag etc... in order to obtain 160

My 106 GTi (Mildly modded) pulled 6800rpm on a VTR box, which according to the calculator in the premium section works out to 153mph on 195/45/15's. I'd say given enough space it'd probably be possible.

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Originally Posted by luthor1

M27 between junctions 1 and 3. Virtually straight, and flat. Nowhere for rozzers to get you really, just do a sighting lap and give it some welly!

Andy

Good tip

7th March 2009, 15:35

153mph !?!

7th March 2009, 16:54

imagine getting flashed doing 155mph off the law in a saxo....defo be on the news

7th March 2009, 17:07

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Originally Posted by geordie555

imagine getting flashed doing 155mph off the law in a saxo....defo be on the news

dont think speed guns can read that high,so may get away with it lol

7th March 2009, 17:14

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Originally Posted by quickkwak07

dont think speed guns can read that high,so may get away with it lol

Imagine being able to go that quick in the first place, I didn't think the Saxo clocks went up that high ?!

7th March 2009, 19:27

hope this isnt too stupid (noob to techy mods) but why does a vtr box improve top end speed? and does it counter accelleration?

ive had 134mph in my standard vts and was scary enough so probs not something i'll look into but curious!

7th March 2009, 19:56

just imagine the rear cogs on the montain bike. The bigger the cog, the quicker you can accelerate whereas you can't go as fast without your legs going super fast!

Whereas on the smaller cogs you take longer to accelerate but can go faster.

the above relates to the final drive of the gearbox, so the vtr, vts have the same ratio's but different final drives - or rear cogs on the bike, so one can accelerate quicker whereas the other can go faster.

7th March 2009, 19:57

This is a good way to simplicitically look at it ^ ^

8th March 2009, 01:46

Your allowed upto 230bhp these days in Super 1600..

Some Super 1600's Saxo's that are now privatley owned are pushing around 228bhp..

They will do 0-60 (depending on gearing) in low - mid 4's..

8th March 2009, 01:56

think mines doing it in high 6s its been superchipped,lad cams,lad cylinderheadwork.4 into 1 man,full decat exhaust and many more mods that fill a couple of sides of a4. on the m6 near warrington coming back to the midlands with my newly bought vts, i was sat with an evo 6 up to 120 mph was just funny to see his face then i decided to behave.

8th March 2009, 02:20

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Originally Posted by dj_russell

think mines doing it in high 6s its been superchipped,lad cams,lad cylinderheadwork.4 into 1 man,full decat exhaust and many more mods that fill a couple of sides of a4. on the m6 near warrington coming back to the midlands with my newly bought vts, i was sat with an evo 6 up to 120 mph was just funny to see his face then i decided to behave.

Looking at youre cars at the side, this is a famous LAD 180 conversion then?

8th March 2009, 04:06

borinnnnnnnn

8th March 2009, 06:38

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Originally Posted by dj_russell

think mines doing it in high 6s its been superchipped,lad cams,lad cylinderheadwork.4 into 1 man,full decat exhaust and many more mods that fill a couple of sides of a4. on the m6 near warrington coming back to the midlands with my newly bought vts, i was sat with an evo 6 up to 120 mph was just funny to see his face then i decided to behave.

Lol ... LAD

8th March 2009, 09:10

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Originally Posted by raunchz

Imagine being able to go that quick in the first place, I didn't think the Saxo clocks went up that high ?!

you can go past the numbers on the speedo.

8th March 2009, 09:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj_russell

think mines doing it in high 6s its been superchipped,lad cams,lad cylinderheadwork.4 into 1 man,full decat exhaust and many more mods that fill a couple of sides of a4. on the m6 near warrington coming back to the midlands with my newly bought vts, i was sat with an evo 6 up to 120 mph was just funny to see his face then i decided to behave.

so your car that does 60 in 6 seconds can stick with a car that does it in mid 4s?

8th March 2009, 12:14

the cars were rolling i shit you not mate on the m6 the evo got 2 car lengths at 120mph, it was my fault really for egging him on he was on a nice leasurely drive id just bought it and i thought lets see, i was very impressed.

take it this has had the full works ive got recipts for everything been done ill get a tech spec when i can be arsed.

i was just looking for a run around saving for an evo 7 myself,but a few people i know had vtrs vtss etc....so id set my heart on a standard vts then this came up i made the right choice. few things i think im going to do is sell off the cituning bonnet,rear spoiler and rear morettes and put standard items back on. so dunno if anyone wants to swap and cash my way. have the recipts for all of them bits.

8th March 2009, 12:18

nice explanation

8th March 2009, 12:20

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Originally Posted by dj_russell

the cars were rolling i shit you not mate on the m6 the evo got 2 car lengths at 120mph, it was my fault really for egging him on he was on a nice leasurely drive id just bought it and i thought lets see, i was very impressed.

take it this has had the full works ive got recipts for everything been done ill get a tech spec when i can be arsed.

i was just looking for a run around saving for an evo 7 myself,but a few people i know had vtrs vtss etc....so id set my heart on a standard vts then this came up i made the right choice. few things i think im going to do is sell off the cituning bonnet,rear spoiler and rear morettes and put standard items back on. so dunno if anyone wants to swap and cash my way. have the recipts for all of them bits.

Is your car red by any chance? As there's a red lad vts on ebay at the moment.

8th March 2009, 15:06

thats the one mate, the cituning bonnet and spoilers not to my taste im looking for standards as i say but im going to spend the cash modding this. love it to bits