Most BHP from a VTS with £3000 of Mods?

1. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

   #1 20th February 2009, 10:55

   2003 VTS and ive got 3k worth to spend on the engine (dont worry bout susepnsion/brakes) Its totally standard. Any recomendations (eg exhaust system, cams,induction etc.)
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 20th February 2009, 10:57

   depends how handy with the spanners you are, and if you want boost.
3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 20th February 2009, 10:57

   well you need to sort the chassis and braking out first really. Do it the proper way, just do a breathing mods first then the chassis and braking then the power stuff. So you need to make braking into that budget too.
4. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #4 20th February 2009, 10:58

   good induction headwork cams standalone management manifold and a system is what i would do and your 3grand will have very little change tbh
5. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

   #5 20th February 2009, 10:59

   I got vented/grooved/drilled discs allround with braided hoses pads and new springs/lowered and shocks. I just want to know the best products to buy for maximun gains in BHP
   Thanks
6. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

   #6 20th February 2009, 11:00

   all of what you said, plus port and polished throttle body, 4-2-1 manifold, de-cat/sports cat, predator ecu and remap and throttle bodies for 3k
   
   would need good stoppers tho and good suspension because that powers great in a straight line but when it gets bendy you stick to the road and still be going fast
   
   james
7. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

   #7 20th February 2009, 11:01

   Whats standalone management? and im rubbish wit spanners will carry all the work out by a pro
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 20th February 2009, 11:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bigbadboy Whats standalone management? and im rubbish wit spanners will carry all the work out by a pro

   its a better ecu which is needed for most high end engine specs.
9. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

   #9 20th February 2009, 11:02

   Can you do all the work yourself? If not you'll probally get 1k worth of performance parts and 2k laybour.
   
   If you can do the work yourself.. Then do some research on modding the 16v. Depending on what you want from the engine... N/A? Turbo?
   
   For turbo you'll need low comp pistons etc, Or throttlebodys for N/A standalone managment etc.
   
   Personally because i cant do work myself, id buy a highly spec'd N/A engine. I'd Never own a turbo'd converted car again, 3 1k rebuilds in 2 months.. Sold it, 200 miles bang. Not good for thrashing compared to n/a.
10. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #10 20th February 2009, 11:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigbadboy Whats standalone management? and im rubbish wit spanners will carry all the work out by a pro

    Going off this... sell your car, add cash to 3k.. and get one alredy done, PROPERLY.
11. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

    #11 20th February 2009, 11:06

    Defo not turbo/supercharger or TB's just too expensive.
    Am i better off getting a ECU remap or a brand new ECU?
12. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #12 20th February 2009, 11:06

    100 shot of Naaaaaawwwwwwws
    
    would have some change left over too
    
    
    I cannot vouch for the longevity of your engine when going this route :-)
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 20th February 2009, 11:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigbadboy Defo not turbo/supercharger or TB's just too expensive. Am i better off getting a ECU remap or a brand new ECU?

    so you want a mild spec engine.
    
    just do the usual breathing mods,wang some catcam 708s in and get the stock ecu mapped to suit. 150-155bhp your way
14. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

    #14 20th February 2009, 11:12

    yh was looking at the 150-160bhp mark thats plenty for me in a car weighing 900kg lol
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 20th February 2009, 11:14

    try 30-40 more and less weight then it starts getting fun
16. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

    #16 20th February 2009, 11:17

    well year was thinking about doing the intire body made from 100% carbon fibre but was a bit pricey. mind you would drop bout 200kg off the kerbweight along wit striped interior and carbon buckets lol
17. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #17 20th February 2009, 11:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigbadboy well year was thinking about doing the intire body made from 100% carbon fibre but was a bit pricey. mind you would drop bout 200kg off the kerbweight along wit striped interior and carbon buckets lol

    the entire body from carbon lol... that will cost about 10k+ considering you would need most of it moulded especially
    
    you dont need carbon everything to reduce the weight a good amount on saxos.
18. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

    #18 20th February 2009, 11:26

    its not 10k but for example the bonnet was 700 and the roof and boot was 1500 lol
19. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

    #19 20th February 2009, 11:29

    It would be around the 10k mark, as stated bumpers, skirts etc would need moulding and that would be the expensive part!
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 20th February 2009, 11:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bigbadboy its not 10k but for example the bonnet was 700 and the roof and boot was 1500 lol

    how is that a carbon everything? its a bonnet and roof lol.
21. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #21 20th February 2009, 11:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO It would be around the 10k mark, as stated bumpers, skirts etc would need moulding and that would be the expensive part!

    3/4 pannels would also be fun
22. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

    #22 20th February 2009, 11:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan how is that a carbon everything? its a bonnet and roof lol.

    didnt notice that i put EXAMPLE in front of the sentence
23. Mathias Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2008 Pembrokeshire Posts: 5598

    #23 20th February 2009, 11:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan 3/4 pannels would also be fun

    Certainly would, i'd imagine they would be 2k + each once moulded, depending on what company you went with
24. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #24 20th February 2009, 11:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WIDE-VTR-TURBO Certainly would, i'd imagine they would be 2k + each once moulded, depending on what company you went with

    depends on the tooling procedure of them. If you are having to pay for the moulds aswell 10K soon rises well above
25. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #25 20th February 2009, 12:48

    why you'd want to replace plastic parts with carbon fibre is beyond me anyway.
    
    CF is stiff and light, which makes it mint for tensile, structual loading. but otherwise plastic is a better option if it's not structural.
26. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #26 20th February 2009, 13:18

    Spending 3k on a saxo during a recession is abit crazy to me.
    
    Heres a bunch of NA mods that will increase your performance. Research each one and do a little feasability study to find out what you can and can't afford and work out best bang for buck.
    
    Induction kit
    Exhaust System (Decat)
    4-1 or 4-2-1 Manifold
    Cams (do your research before buying some)
    Throttlebodies (also do your research, can be very expensive)
    ECU - Go standalone if your getting TB's if not just get your ECU remapped once you have all your mods fitted
    Headwork - Can be very expensive and not show alot of gains
    
    
    Best cheapest way to make the car faster is weight reduction. Don't go buying new carbon parts before you've got rid of all the 'free' weight in the car that you dont need. Sound deadening, rear seats etc.
27. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #27 20th February 2009, 17:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Paul Spending 3k on a saxo during a recession is abit crazy to me.

    why is it, some people are not effected by it, and enjoy saxos and still want to piss about with money for a bit of fun