Real Track Roll Cage Advice Needed

1. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

   #1 21st February 2009, 18:40

   As some may know, i'm tracking my vts.
   (http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=209317)
   
   I'd like someone to show me a diagram of a recommended set up for a cage.
   There will be only one seat and nothing else inside.
   Welding isnt a problem as my dads a welder and he's making me one. He just wants something to go by..
   
   Any input appreciated !
   
2. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

   #2 21st February 2009, 19:20

   No diagram, but it basically needs a main hoop to do behind the seats, from the floor up round the door frame, across the roof and back down the other side, and then rear legs to brace it with. Easiest to make them fit onto the rear arches but some cages go to the boot floor and attach to the rear beam mounts iirc.
   
   Up to you if you want door bars or cross braces etc.
3. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

   #3 21st February 2009, 20:19

   you got an pictures mate?
   like of yours?
4. warrior Newbie Joined: Jun 2008 leeds Posts: 19 106 Rallye 1.6 8v Track slag

   #4 22nd February 2009, 00:17

   something like this SD cage like i got or somate like a costom cage?
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
5. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

   #5 22nd February 2009, 08:03

   thats exactly what i needed! thanks dude
6. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #6 22nd February 2009, 08:06

   If your dad wants to bolt and weld mine in you can have a free look
7. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

   #7 22nd February 2009, 08:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxo180 If your dad wants to bolt and weld mine in you can have a free look

   I'm sure he would if he had half an hour.. what you rekon to the trailer idea then?
   too expensive 4 u?
8. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #8 22nd February 2009, 08:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by evans1089 I'm sure he would if he had half an hour.. what you rekon to the trailer idea then? too expensive 4 u?

   No, it's less than I've already been quoted. Just waiting to see how my wage spans out over next few months. Won't need it until October so will keep you posted
9. Andy_K Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2004 in the garage trying to fix the car Posts: 5882 Mondeo st tdci & Supercharged vts

   #9 22nd February 2009, 11:20

   
   
   Thats the only pic I got at the minute of mine. Main hoop is made from 50mm (outer diameter) tube, and all the rest from 40mm diameter.
   
   If you want additional bars, OMP sell various pre-formed fittings that you can use to make things a bit easier. Just weld them on to the other tubes:
   
   
   Demon Tweeks sell them, or theres a shop on ebay that does them as well.
10. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

    #10 22nd February 2009, 23:46

    thanks for pictures andy! looks like my dash will be coming out soon then
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 23rd February 2009, 10:55

    does your dad have pipe bending facilities etc....???
    
    as if not its dangerous to just weld up any bars.
    
    Id recomment buying a kit of all the bars and getting him to weld it together, at least then its been designed on a CAD system and tested
12. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #12 23rd February 2009, 11:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by warrior

    mmmmm my cage (mind i have the better doorbars)
    
    best to get a decent cage thats desighned to do the job lol
    home made bodges will porbably fail in a big off unless its welded to a very high standard (and even then if an angles wrong it still might)
    
    companies dont spend thousands desighning cages if it was something you could bodge in your shed tbh
13. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #13 23rd February 2009, 12:17

    I would suggest buying a cheap weld in cage with the basic's, then adding additional bracing as that usually is straight pipe. Work out how you are going to weld the cage as you need to weld all the way round each join. probably the best way is to fit the floor mounts last and weld the cage together, before moving up into position and sliding the floor mounts in.
14. matt_vtr_15 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2008 nottingham Posts: 4801 saxo mark 2

    #14 23rd February 2009, 12:46

    i could ask jojo's dad what he could do??
    
    this is his website.. http://www.bmsengineering.co.uk/
    
    he could design one on cad and bend the tubes and all that ready for your dad to weld...
    
    he does a very good job mate
    
    or just give him a call and he may be able to give you a rough quote...
15. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

    #15 23rd February 2009, 16:39

    I'm not paying 4 anything.
    yea he has all the facilities available. Those pictures above just give us ideas