Toyo Proxes for Track?

1. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #1 7th March 2009, 16:35

   Looking at some tyres to fit to "occassional track" wheels and found some bargain Toyo 195/50/15s on eBay
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=002
   
   Just wondering if anyone else has used these on track and how they fare?
   
   I know they are the wrong size (50 profile) but I'm not too concerned about that
2. Spanky Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 9578 Saxo VTS

   #2 7th March 2009, 16:42

   im not 100% sure about track use, but i have had them on the raods (not sure if you have) and tbh i did not like them, my personal opion is that they seemed to skit about a litle bit, as if they would grip, but then slide, then grip again....
   
   Like i said i cant be sure about track use, but thats how they wer onthe roads for me....
   
   Could mayb recomend some Marangoni tyres, not sure of the actual model of tyre but it has like a "wave" shaped tread going from one side to the other.
   
   I no they use this tyre in the japenesse RX8 cup....
   
   EDIT - They are called the Marangoni Zetalinea
   
   Here is the link to there site http://tyre.marangoni.com/
   
   If you go into the Motorsport section, then single tyre championships, it has it wrote up in there
3. stormin Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Toronto, Canada Posts: 1118 Mitsi Evo 2008

   #3 7th March 2009, 17:45

   You can get the better version of that tyre for 117
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MEWA:IT&ih=002
   The PX4E was mainly designed for road use giving lower noise when in contact with the surface.
   I always use the one in the link provided and have never had an issue with them in wet or dry and that not being gental in eiter of the conditions.
   Other people will say dif but personally the the best for the track.
4. Mark51p Super Moderator Joined: Sep 2006 Wakefield Posts: 14427 Golf GT

   #4 7th March 2009, 17:51

   i had proxes on my nimrods, fair enough i didnt track it with them on but it did get some stick on the roads. i didnt think tha much to them until i got some vts rims with budget tyres on and have very little grip. my next set of tyres will be proxes.
   
   one thing to bare in mind craig is with them been 50 profile, there will obviously be more flex in the tyre wall than the 45 profile. not sure how picky you want to be
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 7th March 2009, 19:18

   craigy fyi r888s are proxes and come in at 65 quid a tyre from some stockists and are the 50 profile
6. jamiemol Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 aberystwyth...mid wales Posts: 802 maritius vts

   #6 7th March 2009, 19:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS craigy fyi r888s are proxes and come in at 65 quid a tyre from some stockists and are the 50 profile

   have a mate who runs them on his ek9 for road use highly rates them unless its quite damp/wet
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 7th March 2009, 19:24

   quite a lot of people rate them
   for track there probably one of the better road legal tyres you can get
8. user_13958 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3068

   #8 7th March 2009, 19:27

   Yoko Parada's are the way forward! Not to dear either, i paid £130 for 4 posted!
9. jamiemol Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2008 aberystwyth...mid wales Posts: 802 maritius vts

   #9 7th March 2009, 19:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS quite a lot of people rate them for track there probably one of the better road legal tyres you can get

   yeah been thinking of getting some for my R wheels for the summer...but from what ive heard there very good on road and track unless it raining and pretty wet but i doubt your going to be nailing it in the wet lol so if youve got the money id get r888's
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 7th March 2009, 19:44

    in standing water some people say there not the best but if you take it steady should be sound
11. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #11 8th March 2009, 11:15

    Its really not worth getting anything other than R888's Craig if you consider they are only an extra 60quid
    
    You wont regret it, trust me!
12. Andy72 Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Newcastle Posts: 825 306 GTI-6

    #12 8th March 2009, 11:43

    I had toyos on my sprinter. They are quite soft so grip quite well in both wet and dry. The t1s I had didn't screech at allyet the cf1's were very vocal. There are better gyres out there though eg maragoni and bridgestone potenza's but toyos are pound/performance bargain
13. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #13 8th March 2009, 13:57

    Cheapest I've found 888s for is £300. Don't really have that amount of cash to throw at the car at the mo, which is why I was looking at the cheaper end of the scale - especially as I may only do 2-3 actual track days this year!
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 8th March 2009, 18:23

    Craig camskill I got my last set of R888s for £240 delivered.
    
    thats a bit short of £300.
    
    If you are serious about track time, i would go for the better R888s. Although they will show up how bad your suspension is if you dont have decent suspension IMO
    
    normal Toyos I have for my wet wheels lol!...
15. wigansaxo Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2008 wigan Posts: 3787 citroen saxo 1.1 forte(sold) sierra sapphire 1.8 v

    #15 8th March 2009, 18:45

    fuckkkkkk ive just been out bid on some tr1's on ebay, gutted, anyone on here took them? lol
16. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #16 9th March 2009, 12:27

    Seriously Craig, for the sake of 40quid its worth waiting that extra month, or having the 40quid on the credit card for an extra month!
17. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #17 9th March 2009, 23:00

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpsaxo Seriously Craig, for the sake of 40quid its worth waiting that extra month, or having the 40quid on the credit card for an extra month!

    There is a difference of over £170!!! Can I justify it for the amount of track use they will get this year?
18. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #18 9th March 2009, 23:01

    craig you can get a set of tyres for £70???
    
    as I said camskill sell R888s cheap.
    
    If you are serious about track time the R888 is alot better. However if the 3track events includes, 15mins at trax and fcs then I can see why you cant justify it.
19. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #19 9th March 2009, 23:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan craig you can get a set of tyres for £70??? as I said camskill sell R888s cheap. If you are serious about track time the R888 is alot better. However if the 3track events includes, 15mins at trax and fcs then I can see why you cant justify it.

    Exactly
20. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #20 9th March 2009, 23:13

    so the track events you count are shows lol!!!
    
    You wont even scrub the R888s in with the track time the cars gonna get then
21. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

    #21 9th March 2009, 23:56

    Give him a break lol.

    
    
    
22. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #22 9th March 2009, 23:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Paul Give him a break lol.

    Cheers man! Your lights are ready whenever you are now btw
23. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #23 10th March 2009, 00:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo180 There is a difference of over £170!!! Can I justify it for the amount of track use they will get this year?

    Craig are you insane? of course they are worth it. Once you have them you'll understand
24. Martin-106gti L-plater Joined: Feb 2009 Skelmersdale Posts: 63 106 gti

    #24 14th March 2009, 22:17

    R888's tyres are realy good for track mate just got a new set delivered last week all in delivered was £64.45 a tyre. 195/50/15's they are well known on trak scene for being cheap and very effective. You realy should warm them up abit first though for full benefit tbh.
    Toyo Proxes T1-R would be more suited for road use and would last you alot longer and seem good by what i have experienced.
25. andywiddss1 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2007 skipton northyorks Posts: 5275 clio 172 exclusive track toy

    #25 14th March 2009, 22:24

    r888 the only ones worth having for the money ,buy cheap tyres for track buy twice and no grip
26. TypeRhys Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2005 Abergavenny Posts: 3561 Accord Type R

    #26 15th March 2009, 22:23

    I have heard great things about Hankook RS2's.
    Not usually my 1st choice Tyre brand (or 3rd, 4th or 5th for that matter lol) but all reviews seems to rate them highly considering their price.
    
    They are aimed at the track market and are very well priced on camskill in the 50 profile size you are looking at.
    
    http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.p...m12b0s662p4057
    
    Try googling for some reviews
27. vtr-tec Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Newark Posts: 540 Saxo vtr 16V CRX VT 91' Civic EK

    #27 16th March 2009, 14:11

    888's are plenty better than parada spec 2's i have had both and paradas overheat way to quick on track