VTS engine into VTR

1st November 2005, 03:30

im on th quest for power and dont really want to spend that much, well, about 1500 quid.

turbos and s/c seems to be to expnesive, but vts engine seems to be a good way to go?

would this be advised? or is putting the money towards something like a turbo a good idea?

or putting the money into cams etc?

what would you advise? and what would be the safe option?

1st November 2005, 03:36

the safe option would be to save money up so you can afford the modification + insurance increase involved

£1500 wont go far towards an engine transplant really, but will buy you a decent Cam, full exhaust, enclosed induction and possibly remap. with a chunk left for the insurance ofcourse

1st November 2005, 03:43

how much would a transplant be?

and whats the biggest ltr engine you have seen in a saxo, iv never seen bigger than a vts but heard of 2ltr turbos but never seen one personally!!!

1st November 2005, 03:58

search around mate - these topics are covered sooo much.

depends how much you can get a donar engine for, as well as all the extras like the wiring loom, ecu, transponder etc

then £500 ish for fitting.

But with a bigger engine - you'll need bigger and better brakes. and check with your insurance company as to whether they'll still insure you with a conversion...as a lot of them wont!!

1st November 2005, 03:59

What saxo do you have? you wouldnt get a 2ltr conversion for £1500. It depends what kinda power your after?

1st November 2005, 04:02

iv got a x reg mark2 vtr.

i just want something that gives me the advantage over other vtrs and maybe keep up with the likes of a vts

1st November 2005, 13:02

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Originally Posted by saxo26

how much would a transplant be?

and whats the biggest ltr engine you have seen in a saxo, iv never seen bigger than a vts but heard of 2ltr turbos but never seen one personally!!!

the biggest engine into a saxo would be the mi-16 lump! 1.9 16v. its in a 106, so will go in a sax!

y not just change the cams, remap & alter the gearing! but a smaller gbox in wiv your VTR 5th gear! a rappid car for less ££... the 8v block is a lil stronger than the 16valver also!

1st November 2005, 14:15

no its not its the exact same strength

1st November 2005, 14:59

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Originally Posted by Scott

no its not its the exact same strength

8valve - 16valve! surely not...

pls explain i crave information..................

1st November 2005, 15:06

they are all made from exactly the same material in the exact same wya im afriad

why would they be different though? they both generate the same amounts of torque just at different ranges

1st November 2005, 15:10

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Originally Posted by Scott

they are all made from exactly the same material in the exact same wya im afriad

why would they be different though? they both generate the same amounts of torque just at different ranges

true true! i was under the impression that the 16v heads pop easier! as the power output is more "obviously", the blok is under more pressure so therfor slightly "disadvantaged" so to speak

1st November 2005, 15:32

If you want to be able to keep up with vts's then you can, get a cam, remap, full system & de-cat, enlosed air filter,polish & port the head and have it gas flowed. With these mods you should see a decent gain in power.

1st November 2005, 15:38

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Originally Posted by WestyVTR

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Originally Posted by Scott

they are all made from exactly the same material in the exact same wya im afriad

why would they be different though? they both generate the same amounts of torque just at different ranges

true true! i was under the impression that the 16v heads pop easier! as the power output is more "obviously", the blok is under more pressure so therfor slightly "disadvantaged" so to speak

dan thoughts on the qoute pls!!

1st November 2005, 15:40

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Originally Posted by danvtr_9

If you want to be able to keep up with vts's then you can, get a cam, remap, full system & de-cat, enlosed air filter,polish & port the head and have it gas flowed. With these mods you should see a decent gain in power.

tbh by the time you've paid to have all that done, you could have bought a vts engine and had 120bhp to start with. down to personal choice and how far you want to go with the car, but if you're looking for the most bhp-per-£, then i'd go the vts engine route.

1st November 2005, 15:43

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Originally Posted by seanvtr81

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Originally Posted by danvtr_9

If you want to be able to keep up with vts's then you can, get a cam, remap, full system & de-cat, enlosed air filter,polish & port the head and have it gas flowed. With these mods you should see a decent gain in power.

tbh by the time you've paid to have all that done, you could have bought a vts engine and had 120bhp to start with. down to personal choice and how far you want to go with the car, but if you're looking for the most bhp-per-£, then i'd go the vts engine route.

most BHP for £ would be NO2..... then its on tap! but be v carfull.....

1st November 2005, 15:44

^^^true, but the topic's called 'vts engine into vtr'

and nitrous is only 'on tap' for short bursts at a time, which imo makes it a pretty gay mod

1st November 2005, 15:47

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Originally Posted by seanvtr81

^^^true, but the topic's called 'vts engine into vtr'

and nitrous is only 'on tap' for short bursts at a time, which imo makes it a pretty gay mod

LOL... its a mod that is there wen u want it, but the mechanics of the car cant really handle to well.... does that difine "a gay mod"...

1st November 2005, 15:50

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Originally Posted by seanvtr81

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Originally Posted by danvtr_9

If you want to be able to keep up with vts's then you can, get a cam, remap, full system & de-cat, enlosed air filter,polish & port the head and have it gas flowed. With these mods you should see a decent gain in power.

tbh by the time you've paid to have all that done, you could have bought a vts engine and had 120bhp to start with. down to personal choice and how far you want to go with the car, but if you're looking for the most bhp-per-£, then i'd go the vts engine route.

I totally agree sean as its what I did, but if he didnt want to have a conversion thats an option.

Westy my mate has a vtr mk2 its in the for sale section atm, he has had all the above mods done to it and it can easily keep up with mine.

1st November 2005, 15:53

Westy-the mistake most people make when fitting nitrous is that they fit 100bhp jets to a 100bhp car, then claim their car has 200bhp. it doesn't.
even if it is available for when you want it, it's still only available for short bursts at a time, which = gay.
like i said, IMO i'd rather have the power there all the time, but it's down to personal choice.

Dan- yep, wasn't arguing, it's what i'm doing as well

1st November 2005, 15:54

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Originally Posted by seanvtr81

the mistake most people make when fitting nitrous is that they fit 100bhp jets to a 100bhp car, then claim their car has 200bhp. it doesn't.
even if it is available for when you want it, it's still only available for short bursts at a time, which = gay.
like i said, IMO i'd rather have the power their all the time, but it's down to personal choice.

true! part timers mod...