Rules on 16v Conversions...

1. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

   #1 9th March 2009, 00:50

   I know that the insurance has to be changed, but else do i need to do now?
   Do i have to inform the DVLA and where do i stand come MOT time? Are the emission different from VTR's and VTS'?
2. Matt Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Walsall Posts: 1748

   #2 9th March 2009, 01:01

   Youre ment to change it on the vo5 mate aswell
3. smiith Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Sep 2007 Jail - Whitby Posts: 15034 520bhp Honda Jazz

   #3 9th March 2009, 01:01

   You are better of telling the DVLA then the engine is right on the log book, and you tax might change, you will need an engineers report for it most probably.
4. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

   #4 9th March 2009, 01:15

   Tax wont change due to the age of the car. It was dont by engine size up until 2002 i think.
   According to the DVLA websitee, you only need to change it if you change the engine size
5. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #5 9th March 2009, 03:56

   Need to change the Log book, then when the tax comes round you'll have to pay the vts' rate on tax as well. Thats about it mate
6. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #6 9th March 2009, 06:39

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by liam08 Tax wont change due to the age of the car. It was dont by engine size up until 2002 i think. According to the DVLA websitee, you only need to change it if you change the engine size

   I'd send it off just so the engine numbers match up.
7. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

   #7 9th March 2009, 08:44

   Whats this engineers report about? I read the DVLA site they reckon you need a receipt from the garage that did the work. Slight problem there
8. luthor1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802

   #8 9th March 2009, 08:51

   What data does the log book have?.....
   
   Engine size (unchanged), engine number (changed). SO tell them the engine number has changed, and that should be the DVLA done.
   
   Andy
9. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

   #9 9th March 2009, 10:26

   The Tax will change, mine's a 1999 model and the tax charge changed to match that of a VTS engine
10. luthor1 Established Member Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 1802

    #10 9th March 2009, 10:45

    JPSaxo, can you tell me the previous tax charge and the new tax charge?
    
    I was under the impression it was on engine cc?
    
    Cheers
    Andy
11. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #11 9th March 2009, 12:29

    Im going back a while now... But iirc my 1.4 engine was 60quid for 6months, the vts engine is almost double!
    
    Either way it changed, and obviously if you dont declare it you wont be covered on insurance purposes!
12. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

    #12 9th March 2009, 14:12

    Yer, you went from a 1.4 to a 1.6. I've gone from a 1.6 to a 1.6. Taxation comes in classes. For example from a 1.6 to 2.0 its £101.75 for 6 months.
13. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #13 9th March 2009, 19:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jpsaxo The Tax will change, mine's a 1999 model and the tax charge changed to match that of a VTS engine

    that was the same for mine !!! went from tax 1.4 engine, to tax 1.6 engine
14. pjm300 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2005 Potters Bar United Kingdom (England) Posts: 2749 T/B'd VTS

    #14 9th March 2009, 19:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matt Youre ment to change it on the vo5 mate aswell

    *sniggers*
15. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

    #15 9th March 2009, 19:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matt Youre ment to change it on the vo5 mate aswell

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pjm300 *sniggers*

    Thought It was only me that noticed.
    
    V05 Is a womens shampoo.
    V5 Is a Car's registration document.
    
    I very much doubt that the DVLA want your hair-products when you do an Engine Conversion, just the reg. document will probably do
16. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #16 9th March 2009, 19:34

    thats if you tell them your doing it
    always worth declaring it! complete the V5 and thats it, when the insurance comes to re-new it will state the engine number has changed on their data base i would of thought, but 1.6 to 1.6 shouldnt be any dfferent... unless they can tell its from 8v to 16v ?
17. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #17 9th March 2009, 19:43

    You have to declare the engine change to your insurance straight away, if you dont and you crash you can and probably will get a short amount of time behind bars
    
    How dows the tax work though do they send you a new tax disk which you pay for and they refund you the remianing on the old one?
18. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #18 9th March 2009, 19:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo You have to declare the engine change to your insurance straight away, if you dont and you crash you can and probably will get a short amount of time behind bars How dows the tax work though do they send you a new tax disk which you pay for and they refund you the remianing on the old one?

    I sent them the updated reg. doc's and then I didn't pay the increase in tax until my current tax run out.
    
    I didn't get a new tax disc either.
19. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #19 9th March 2009, 20:03

    Swanky, will get a years tax just before the conversion then
20. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

    #20 9th March 2009, 20:19

    Is that engineers report thing a requirement?
21. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #21 9th March 2009, 20:35

    I havnt done one on mine . . . . . I can imagine if you went from a 1.0 to a 5.6 v8 then you might need an engineers report. But 1.6 to a 1.6 should be fine.
22. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

    #22 9th March 2009, 20:54

    LOL, i suppose. Though that was quite funny tbh...
23. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #23 10th March 2009, 00:12

    Its only if your down sizing the size of the engine you need an engineers report. Everything you need to know is in the small print guys!
24. jpsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast

    #24 10th March 2009, 00:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by liam08 Yer, you went from a 1.4 to a 1.6. I've gone from a 1.6 to a 1.6. Taxation comes in classes. For example from a 1.6 to 2.0 its £101.75 for 6 months.

    So the vtr is the same engine as the vts then? You have to send them the engine number. Your car wont be insursed without documenting exactly what you have, pretty self explanitory, whether it changes the tax rate or not - thats not the point!
25. Liam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Swindon Posts: 2982 Black VTS

    #25 10th March 2009, 08:40

    I know that, im not even arguing that point. But the tax for a VTR and VTS pre 2002 is exactly the same, as its done on the CC of the engine.
26. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #26 10th March 2009, 19:56

    So can I buy a VTS then tell them I've done a 1.4 conversion so I can pay lower tax?
27. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #27 10th March 2009, 19:58

    Youll have to get an engineers inpection to proove you have
28. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #28 10th March 2009, 19:59

    I knew it wouldn't be that easy.
29. PManghan Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Peterlee Posts: 109 Mondeo 2.2 TDCI Megane 1.6 16v Sport. Currently

    #29 10th March 2009, 23:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sax_Dan Thought It was only me that noticed. V05 Is a womens shampoo. V5 Is a Car's registration document. I very much doubt that the DVLA want your hair-products when you do an Engine Conversion, just the reg. document will probably do

    Shit! It's only a womans!?
    
    Hah.
30. dynebaruk Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Bridgend Posts: 1098 Golf GTI 1.8 turbo

    #30 11th March 2009, 00:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mieran So can I buy a VTS then tell them I've done a 1.4 conversion so I can pay lower tax?

    If you did that then you crashed and the insurance company found out, you'd find yourself in a lot of trouble no doubt