catch can blow by

1. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #1 22nd March 2009, 18:03

   not sure what to call it, but lately im getting alot of oil blown out of my breather/catch can. The oil that spits out is emushlionsed (really dont know how to spell that) but what drains out of the sump aint and the coolent isnt mixed with oil either.
   
   the car is a vtr turbo and was fine upto about a month ago
2. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #2 22nd March 2009, 18:50

   sounds like the start of a head gasket problem
3. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #3 22nd March 2009, 19:52

   dont think its head gaskit as there is no mix in the sump oil or the coolent
4. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #4 23rd March 2009, 21:02

   bump, there a fair bit of oil burning in the exhuast aswell.
   Could the oil preshure be to high.
5. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #5 23rd March 2009, 22:16

   yes if its anything like my old 1.1 when it started to die it was because of the piston rings starting to die a death OR it could be the pipes for the catch tank aint big enough cauing pressure there to
6. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #6 23rd March 2009, 23:03

   still does it when i take the catch can pipe of, how could i test to see if the rings are on the way out.
7. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #7 23rd March 2009, 23:06

   take dipstick partially out just the top and put your hand over the rocker breather
8. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #8 23rd March 2009, 23:07

   will it blow out of the dipstick if the rings are goosed
9. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

   #9 23rd March 2009, 23:50

   yes like thomas the tank
10. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #10 24th March 2009, 07:45

    could valve stem oil seals also be a possabilty
11. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #11 24th March 2009, 11:26

    did the dip stick test and it bubbles out oil, so does mean the rings are gone
12. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #12 24th March 2009, 19:09

    bump it like its hot
13. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #13 24th March 2009, 20:35

    valve stems usually on start up only mate
    
    how badly does it bubble out? like a squirter or slowly? sounds like they are on their way one problem with catch tanks is that if the pipes are to small in diameter then it makes the engine breathing a lot more well restricted
14. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #14 25th March 2009, 10:52

    bubbles a fair bit, how big a job is changeing the rings
15. JessopVTS Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Redcar, Middlesbrough Posts: 389 Citroen AX SPORT VTS Citroen AX Forte' VTS

    #15 25th March 2009, 12:50

    Excuse to fit forged pistons if ive ever seen one tbh!
16. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #16 25th March 2009, 13:03

    wish i could afford them, out of work tho so its a no no
17. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #17 25th March 2009, 15:28

    if tis standard bottom end I would just get a new bottom end in thwere mate and keep yuor dead one for forgies when you got cash
18. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #18 25th March 2009, 15:49

    how much do rings cost, give me an excuse to fit a de comp plate and do away with the thick head gaskit
19. Sophia_Bush Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jan 2007 Shropshire Posts: 9994 Moonstone Blue 106 GTi

    #19 25th March 2009, 17:25

    by the time you have messed about getting the rings and taking everything else apart cheaper to slap a new bottom end in. Becareful with decompression plates mine was shit hence why I went back tot he thickest HG ran alot better
20. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #20 25th March 2009, 17:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sophia_Bush by the time you have messed about getting the rings and taking everything else apart cheaper to slap a new bottom end in. Becareful with decompression plates mine was shit hence why I went back tot he thickest HG ran alot better

    The trouble with changeing the bottom end is the rents will notice im pulling the engine out and windge, were as if im doing the rings ill just say im serviceing it lol.
    
    apart from rings, cam belt, head set and sealent from the sump what else would i need.
    
    what problems did you have with the de com plate