the cost of bhp?

25th March 2009, 16:19

hey guys, ive got £400 quid spare after buying my vtr and woundered how much bhp i could get with it? if anyone knows could you let me know id be very grateful

25th March 2009, 16:20

probably get a decent cat back exhaust and a de cat for that amount?

25th March 2009, 16:20

> Sportex cat back £130
> Sportex manifold £150
> Port and polish TB ( free if you do it yourself ) or around £25
> Simota induction £115
> decat - Not sure on prices

May add upto 15bhp if your lucky. Above will cost slightly over £400 though.

25th March 2009, 16:29

ok cheers mate

25th March 2009, 16:32

Just out of interest is your VTR a mk2 or a mk1?

Also if you can shed some weight your car it will be a lot faster aswell.

Spare tyre, back seats, rear carpets, parcel shelf etc

25th March 2009, 16:34

mk2 mate think i got a good deal with it to be honest ive had a 1.1 desire for the past 3 years and i didn wana waste money doing that up cos it was slow lol now i got a vtr i can spend abit and try and get some more power out of it

25th March 2009, 16:35

Yeah well what i posted above will gain you some. Then cams and a remap will cost around £800 ish and could add another 20bhp ish depending on a lot of factors though. Or for the same price you could get a VTS engine and drop that in

25th March 2009, 16:42

400quid will probably see you 5-10 bhp max

25th March 2009, 16:43

Tom i think what i originally posted could possibly see over 10bhp?

25th March 2009, 16:45

what should i be looking for and for how much then if i had a garage fit the exhaust etc? but if anyone wants to give me a hand doing it i wouldnt compain?

25th March 2009, 16:47

exhaust 2-3, manifold 5ish, throttle body nout, air filter 2bhp

making a rough total of 10

25th March 2009, 16:49

depending where your based i could give you a hand

25th March 2009, 16:54

if you a prepared to wait for bargains, you could probably get full exhaust, mani, induction and half decent suspension set up for £400.

25th March 2009, 16:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom

exhaust 2-3, manifold 5ish, throttle body nout, air filter 2bhp

making a rough total of 10

and the decat will give a good 2-4bhp?

25th March 2009, 16:55

im in cardiff buddy its ok ill shop around maybe see whats in the scrappys

25th March 2009, 18:53

how about this manifold i found on ebay = MANIFOLD JANSPEED EXHAUST EM580 its for 150 quid any good?

25th March 2009, 18:55

link didnt work mate.

25th March 2009, 19:02

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-VTR-MANIF...QQcmdZViewItem

25th March 2009, 19:04

If you dont mind swapping engines, you could get a VTS lump in there fitted for £400ish?

25th March 2009, 19:04

Yeah its a good manifold, get the same one for the same price of KAM RACING,

google it.

25th March 2009, 19:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty-VTR

If you dont mind swapping engines, you could get a VTS lump in there fitted for £400ish?

I dont think you can mate...

25th March 2009, 19:13

how hard a job to change manifold then? would a garage do it cheap?

25th March 2009, 19:19

Not that hard mate, but if you havnt done it before then it can be hard. And a garage wouldnt charge too much i shouldnt think.

25th March 2009, 19:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by seany2hxrny

how about this manifold i found on ebay = MANIFOLD JANSPEED EXHAUST EM580 its for 150 quid any good?

you should get a stainless steel one mate they look better and dont rust, there better in the long run.

25th March 2009, 19:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hopey121

you should get a stainless steel one mate they look better and dont rust, there better in the long run.

Doesnt matter because the one off Kam Racing comes with a anti rust coating.

25th March 2009, 19:36

because its a mk2 what do i have to change around the oil filter?

25th March 2009, 19:42

could get a vts engine chucked in for not much more

or sell it and get a vts

25th March 2009, 20:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

I dont think you can mate...

Why not? Can get an engine for £200, someone on here does the conversion for £200 iirc?

25th March 2009, 22:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matty-VTR

Why not? Can get an engine for £200, someone on here does the conversion for £200 iirc?

If it was as simple as just getting an engine and fitting it.

You will need the loom aswell, and other bits and pieces. You would be lucky to get a good conditioned low milelage one for £200, you would be lucky if the total cost came to less than £600

And it doesnt always go without problems.

25th March 2009, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123

If it was as simple as just getting an engine and fitting it.

You will need the loom aswell, and other bits and pieces. You would be lucky to get a good conditioned low milelage one for £200, you would be lucky if the total cost came to less than £600

And it doesnt always go without problems.

Doesnt have to be low milage one lol and i have seen engines circa £200 with loom and ecu etc, and i have seen people offer to fit engines for around the £200 mark

There you go £400...ish

25th March 2009, 22:28

Go and ask people who have had an S conversion. And ask them how much they payed, not many will be £400.

25th March 2009, 22:41

yo mate im going to get this exhaust system http://www.potn.co.uk/p1402339.htm
and hopefully a 4-2-1 manifold, that would add a few bhp correct?

25th March 2009, 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by seany2hxrny

yo mate im going to get this exhaust system http://www.potn.co.uk/p1402339.htm
and hopefully a 4-2-1 manifold, that would add a few bhp correct?

Yeah mate, you could gain maybe 5bhp

and it will look/sound a lot better

have a look into sportex exhausts mate. I highly reccomend them.

25th March 2009, 23:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by seany2hxrny

yo mate im going to get this exhaust system http://www.potn.co.uk/p1402339.htm
and hopefully a 4-2-1 manifold, that would add a few bhp correct?

if your after bhp cheap then i wouldnt bother with that exhaust to be hounest as you can get a supersprint straight through centre section for £60 and will add about the same bhp as that exhaust will.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-vtr-1820.html

also don't spend loads of money on an induction kit when you can just buy a panel filter which will add about the same but only cost £40.
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/kam-racin...-6-8v-153.html

if your vtr is a 2001+ i would nt bother with a manifold as when i fitted my raceland yeah it was better top end but it seemd to loose the low rev power and the revs didnt raise as quickly.

if i was you i would get them 2 items for £100 then i would get the suspension sorted a decent set like this will cost just under £200
http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...saxo-1810.html
very good set as i had them on my saxo.

so far you have spent £300 so the other £100 to get the suspension fitted and torsion bar lowerd and away you go

if you can fit the suspension yourself sort out your brakes with the other £100 and you will have a nippy vtr that can handle well and stop well which is alot better on the road than a slightly higher bhp saxo with standard brakes and suspension.

26th March 2009, 00:45

strip it.. makes alot of difference.. then buy a 4-2-1 manifold and decat with full system.. dnt worry about getting induction kit jus buy a green air filter from kamracing about £40 includin p+p.. does same job if not beta and cheaper

26th March 2009, 00:46

also have your flywheel balanced and lightend.. can feel the difference!

26th March 2009, 08:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by waites

also have your flywheel balanced and lightend.. can feel the difference!

Is quite expenisve isnt it? for basically no gain?

It will just Rev up faster.

If you know somewhere that will do it for cheap then let me know