Raising the rev limiter to 7800rpm - VTS

1. ogro.uff L-plater Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 56

   #1 28th March 2009, 02:20

   Mattes,
   
   I need a chip to raise my rev limiter.
   
   I've got a piggyback to sttel things right on the rollers (dastek Unichip).
   Unfortnately it does not remove or change the rev limiter.
   
   My idea is to install a chip to raise it to 78000rpm and then configurate the piggyback.
   
   Any suggestions about the chip? I've found some of them at ebay UK, but most of all seemed a controller box.
   
   Best regards,
   Ogro
2. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #2 28th March 2009, 08:56

   you cant raise the limiter with out a re-map, how much is it costing you for the dastek, fitting and mapping ect.
3. Timlowthian Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Cowes, Isle of Wight Posts: 600 Saxo Vtr MK2, Bodied 106 xsi

   #3 28th March 2009, 09:39

   Do you really need to raise the limit though? Sometimes it isnt even worth it!
4. ogro.uff L-plater Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 56

   #4 28th March 2009, 12:19

   In a near future I intend to cam the car.
   
   So with the machined cylinder head, 4x1 and 2,25" exhaust, CAI and dastek piggyback fitted AND CAMMED for sure I'll need more rpm...
   
   I'm just antecipating it!
   
   Yes I do know I need to remap the ECU to raise the rev limiter.
   
   Any suggestions for a good recommended chip?
   
   Best regards,
   
   Ogro
5. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #5 28th March 2009, 14:36

   how much is it costing for dastek to be fitted and mapped
6. Psycho18 Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 west Mids Posts: 1775 Mk1 White VTS

   #6 28th March 2009, 14:40

   i thought VTS's were rev limit at 7800rpm anyways! vtr were at 6200rpm
7. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #7 28th March 2009, 14:41

   VTS Limit is 7250. Why don't you just wait until the cams are fitted because it will need mapping then anyways?
8. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #8 28th March 2009, 14:48

   unlocked standard vts ecu will have no rev limiter lol
9. ogro.uff L-plater Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 56

   #9 29th March 2009, 02:54

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gixxa how much is it costing for dastek to be fitted and mapped

   
   Here in Brazil fitted on the rollers, it costs around 700 euros (used one).
   
   If I do see good gains before fitting the cams I'll leave them behind.
10. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #10 29th March 2009, 04:02

    i cant see the point honestly. get the cams fitted, get the ecu mapped for the cams and set up for best performance over the rev range. forget all this chip idea
11. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #11 29th March 2009, 10:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 unlocked standard vts ecu will have no rev limiter lol

    who told you that? that would mean when it was unlocked someone writes a never ending map for it.
12. user_31642 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 s-o-t Posts: 1174 S2 106 Rallye

    #12 29th March 2009, 11:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 unlocked standard vts ecu will have no rev limiter lol

    that isnt true at all because mine is unlocked and it limits at 7500rpm mate
13. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #13 29th March 2009, 12:13

    No point, as the power will start to get less towards the top end unless you fit an anftermarket cam, so thers no point really.
14. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #14 29th March 2009, 12:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 No point, as the power will start to get less towards the top end unless you fit an anftermarket cam, so thers no point really.

    Might want to read that camms are planned to be fitted then
15. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #15 29th March 2009, 12:35

    personaly id look into stand alone, dont know how much they cost there but it would be better than dastek and standard ecu re-map
16. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #16 29th March 2009, 12:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Might want to read that camms are planned to be fitted then

    lol that would have helped
    
    i get worse every day...
17. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #17 29th March 2009, 13:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gixxa you cant raise the limiter with out a re-map, how much is it costing you for the dastek, fitting and mapping ect.

    you can..
18. ogro.uff L-plater Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 56

    #18 29th March 2009, 15:16

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS you can..

    
    Thanks.
    
    For the ones who said there is no point:
    
    Actually I will not remap the car by the chip with the cams fitted.
    
    The Dastek piggyback will! But it does not raise the rev limiter.
    
    That´s why I need to raise my rev limiter, no matter the paramethers the chip wiil bring. Just wanna it fitted to raise my rev limiter.
    
    Then I will go the the rollers to fit all the fuel maps, igniton curves ON THE ROLLERS by THE DASTEK PIGGYBACK.
    
    If I get a good result no cams will be fitted.
    
    But It would be glad for me to push 1ª to the 7800rpm and 2ª coming right away over 5500rpm.
    
    That´s the point!
    
    good discusion!
    
    Best regards,
    
    Ogro
19. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #19 29th March 2009, 16:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS you can..

    how do you do it?
20. VTRcraig Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 coventry Posts: 275 black and silver race car vtr, many saxo projects

    #20 29th March 2009, 17:56

    dastek unichips can raise rev limmit, i have had 2 different dastek's on my race car (an older one and a brand new unichip Q) and the people at the rolling road have been able to change my rev limmit though it, i have currently got my vtr set at 7500 rpm, with just standard ecu and dastek, no dodgy ebay chips lol
    
    id make sure the rolling road place you are going knows what they are talking about.
    
    hope this helps.
21. ogro.uff L-plater Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 56

    #21 29th March 2009, 23:14

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTRcraig dastek unichips can raise rev limmit, i have had 2 different dastek's on my race car (an older one and a brand new unichip Q) and the people at the rolling road have been able to change my rev limmit though it, i have currently got my vtr set at 7500 rpm, with just standard ecu and dastek, no dodgy ebay chips lol id make sure the rolling road place you are going knows what they are talking about. hope this helps.

    
    Sure the dastek unichip removes or raises the rev limiter but only Q and Q+ models and these ones are not avaible here in Brazil.
    
    Mine is the the first version (similar to the perfect power one), which adjusts the ignition curves and fuel maps on the rollers.
    
    Thanks for the help!
    
    Best regards,
    
    Ogro
22. Alex_Oldroyd Regular Poster Joined: Oct 2008 Leeds Posts: 314 posi blue Vts Beaten black and blue!

    #22 30th March 2009, 12:31

    Just a pointer, on your original post u put 78000, thats seventy eight thousand rpm, thats nearly 4 times that of a F1 car, lol! Made me smile, lol!