16s or 17s

1. Timcox Newbie Joined: Nov 2005 Stratford Upon Avon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 8 Mk2 Clio 1.2 Saxo VTR 98BHP Versi

   #1 12th November 2005, 06:31

   Just brought a MK2 VTR, was talking to Tony Chesseman (had a well known VTR a few years ago) he mentioned something about 17s should go straight on on the front, but won't on the rear. Is this true?? How much do 17s shag up the handling and kill the acceleration? Plus how much can I lower it by with 17s on?
2. w_jd_w Established Member Joined: Aug 2005 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1573

   #2 12th November 2005, 16:57

   your going to need your arches rolled for 17s mate.think its proberly stage 2 im not sure.17s will kill your acceleration quite abit because their obviously heavier than say 16s
   
   as i always say...15s for acceleration,17s for style,16 for compromise
3. Timcox Newbie Joined: Nov 2005 Stratford Upon Avon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 8 Mk2 Clio 1.2 Saxo VTR 98BHP Versi

   #3 12th November 2005, 19:07

   has anyone got pics of a saxo on 16s?? esp with ***/40/16 tyres on it?
4. w_jd_w Established Member Joined: Aug 2005 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1573

   #4 12th November 2005, 19:48

   pm wideboy he has pics of everything saxo
5. reevesy_vtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2004 Royston Hertfordshire United Kingdom (England) Posts: 4024 Merc E320 sport estate (the kids made me do it)

   #5 12th November 2005, 22:12

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6. Dan Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Dec 2003 Middlesbrough United Kingdom (England) Posts: 23676 Seat Leon FR

   #6 12th November 2005, 22:42

   Saxo's cant have the arches rolled as there plastic not metal. You can lower it as much as you like but then sufficient arch work need to be done. Arch work needs to be done no matter what drop you have on 17's.
   
   I had my 16's with 40 profiles on and its lowered 60mm, I had no problems and no arch work.
   
   
   
   
7. Timcox Newbie Joined: Nov 2005 Stratford Upon Avon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 8 Mk2 Clio 1.2 Saxo VTR 98BHP Versi

   #7 13th November 2005, 15:25

   so what's teh lowest i can go on 16's without messing up the handling? am thinking of going for springs and dampers, have heard Koni's are good, can anyone recommend anything??
8. w_jd_w Established Member Joined: Aug 2005 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1573

   #8 13th November 2005, 17:08

   koni are good also spax are quality.and yes if you really want to go low your going to have to get springs and shocks
9. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

   #9 13th November 2005, 17:18

   if you don't want to mess up the handling then dont go lower than 35-40mm. 50mm is a good compromise between looks and handling. and if you really want good handling then get your suspension geometry set up after the car has been lowered.
10. wideboy Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2004 Dumfries, Scotland Posts: 4256 An S, an R, and an E46 Schnitzer

    #10 13th November 2005, 22:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by w_jd_w pm wideboy he has pics of everything saxo

    WTF?
    
    Im not a robot.
    
    [edit]Theres a very large gallery full of saxo's, use your initiative ffs
11. w_jd_w Established Member Joined: Aug 2005 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1573

    #11 13th November 2005, 23:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wideboy Quote: Originally Posted by w_jd_w pm wideboy he has pics of everything saxo WTF? Im not a robot. [edit]Theres a very large gallery full of saxo's, use your initiative ffs

    calm down mate!i wasnt suggesting you was a robot!!i was only stating the fact that you have alot of pics of saxos!no need to take offence by it!
12. VTR_JOSH Newbie Joined: Nov 2005 birmingham Posts: 10 Green Mk1 saxo vtr & xsara vtr

    #12 14th November 2005, 02:23

    DAN WHAT WHEELS ARE THEY YOUR CAR LOOKS MINT.
13. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #13 14th November 2005, 02:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTR_JOSH DAN WHAT WHEELS ARE THEY YOUR CAR LOOKS MINT.

    CAPS LOCK MATE!!!! WE AIN'T DEAF!!!!!!
    
    they're 16" OZ Superleggeras with 195/40 tyres, and he's just sold them! they are indeed very nice wheels
14. Sizey Frequent Poster Joined: May 2005 Darlington United Kingdom (England) Posts: 515

    #14 14th November 2005, 22:13

    get 16's buddy !
15. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

    #15 15th November 2005, 06:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wideboy Quote: Originally Posted by w_jd_w pm wideboy he has pics of everything saxo WTF? Im not a robot. [edit]Theres a very large gallery full of saxo's, use your initiative ffs

    handbags... blimey.
    
    
    
    
16. Timcox Newbie Joined: Nov 2005 Stratford Upon Avon United Kingdom (England) Posts: 8 Mk2 Clio 1.2 Saxo VTR 98BHP Versi

    #16 15th November 2005, 15:52

    What is a drop of 50mm like?? my drive is on a bit of an upwards slope, plus i live in the countryside, so sometimes there's dead phesants and other animals in the middle of road, which is a bit hard to miss when your getting past the old grannies doing 30 in a 60!! old people, caravans and horsebox's, they should be band from the road!!!
17. grantsmith1985 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2004 Huntingdon, cambridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3470 MKII VTR

    #17 15th November 2005, 18:01

    Go 17" and a -60mm drop, I did and dont regret it one little bit. The work takes 30 mins so they dont run on the back and they will go on without any work. (well if you take the arch liner out)
18. ziga24 Newbie Joined: Jan 2005 Robanov kot Slovenia Posts: 3

    #18 15th November 2005, 20:58

    16s
    
    
    
    
    
    
19. w_jd_w Established Member Joined: Aug 2005 Derby United Kingdom (England) Posts: 1573

    #19 15th November 2005, 22:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxoAL Quote: Originally Posted by wideboy Quote: Originally Posted by w_jd_w pm wideboy he has pics of everything saxo WTF? Im not a robot. [edit]Theres a very large gallery full of saxo's, use your initiative ffs handbags... blimey.

    my thoughts exactly!
20. Sean Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2005 St Andrews United Kingdom (Scotland) Posts: 7384 Green mk1 vtr/s and Focus zetec

    #20 16th November 2005, 00:28

    or maybe people could start using the rest of sax-p, ie the your cars or photos/videos gallery sections to find pics of saxos, instead of being fucking lazy and asking other people to post pics for them.
21. ad_p Newbie Joined: Feb 2004 Fairoak nr Eccleshall United Kingdom (England) Posts: 24

    #21 16th November 2005, 20:30

    Well said or use the SEARCH function
22. RS_Matt Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 1771 Scooby.

    #22 20th February 2007, 21:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxoAL handbags... blimey.

    think that silver saxo is the sweetest one I've seen to date... wow, what alloys are those?
23. theo Infrequent Poster Joined: Jan 2007 Southampton Posts: 206 Renault Sport Clio 182 Trophy

    #23 20th February 2007, 22:04

    16's are a good compimise if you dont want to mess up the handling of the car too much! Anything over 16 is for looks! And the same with lowering! Anything over 35-40mm is for looks rather than performance!
    
    You need to think what you want from your car!
    
    Look at some Turini Speedlines! Good wheels! lightweight and good performance and handling in a 16
    
    Those are on 205x45xr16 Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2's
    
    As for springs and shocks! Again, its a mix between handling and looks! Consider Bilstein for handling! Expensive!
    Or for rely good handling, there is always the sachs setup, but that comes in at about 1500 per corner for the damers!
24. Josh_Phipps Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 1867 Mk 2 Vtr (sold), Fiat Seciento Sporting

    #24 20th February 2007, 22:13

    17's and down 60mm i say