Hi Specs... what discs?

2nd April 2009, 12:40

What discs can I use for my HiSpec 4 pots? Getting some new pads so figured I'd invest in some new discs as well.

Am I better off sticking with grooved discs with Mintex pads or plain vented?

Cheers Ho's

2nd April 2009, 12:56

Are those discs from Hispec themselves? They do plain vented ones?

2nd April 2009, 22:43

No I was just wondering if the spacing of the HiSpecs is the same as any other (306/406 etc)

2nd April 2009, 22:52

if you wanna talk brakes mate drop me a text 2moro, i'll be at work

2nd April 2009, 22:52

I went for the drilled HiSpec disk as they say the drills aid cooling better,

couldnt fault the setup at all with drilled discs with 1144 pads,
was fricking awesome for 60 mins round Brands, not one bit of fade!

2nd April 2009, 22:55

id just get them from hi-spec, i dont thin they are too expensive?
alexr or ryan might know if you can us other o.e discs though.

2nd April 2009, 22:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by evans1089

if you wanna talk brakes mate drop me a text 2moro, i'll be at work

Good man, will do. Can you get the pads and discs?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl

I went for the drilled HiSpec disk as they say the drills aid cooling better,

couldnt fault the setup at all with drilled discs with 1144 pads,
was fricking awesome for 60 mins round Brands, not one bit of fade!

Just what I wanted to hear

2nd April 2009, 22:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

id just get them from hi-spec, i dont thin they are too expensive?
alexr or ryan might know if you can us other o.e discs though.

Cheers Danny, I'll direct Ryan this way

2nd April 2009, 22:58

Ryan said the drilled ones are more prone to cracking though.

Cant say ive seen anyone crack them,
but it may well be true.

I smashed my pedal for an hour and mine were absolutely lush.

2nd April 2009, 23:02

Unless your spending several hundred a disk with cast holes dont get them drilled!
Cheap disks are pillar drilled and this causes weak spots.
From these holes minute cracks can and do appere.if these are left un noticed the disk can fracture,ive seen it happen.
Just stick with grooved if you want anything over plain

2nd April 2009, 23:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by saxo180

Good man, will do. Can you get the pads and discs?

Just what I wanted to hear

Any discs any pads mate

We have 1 of the largest accounts with eurocarparts and other suppliers for parts

in the UK

2nd April 2009, 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl

Ryan said the drilled ones are more prone to cracking though.

Cant say ive seen anyone crack them,
but it may well be true.

I smashed my pedal for an hour and mine were absolutely lush.

they are more prone to cracking.
when you start baking harder/later/longer you will see the holes start to crack. it wont be as easy due to our cars being so light.

2nd April 2009, 23:05

70+ vat per disc is hispec usually

And I personally wouldnt use drilled for the reason that drilled disks are prone to cracking around the holes when being through lots of hard heat cycles.

it doesnt mean it will happen but a higher chance from reading ive done.

2nd April 2009, 23:07

So, do i have to use HiSpecs or will other discs fit?

2nd April 2009, 23:08

I'm sure the same dimension discs will fit..

2nd April 2009, 23:08

The hispec discs are redrilled renault ones.

So I need to check, I allways use hispec discs purely because I have 2 piece ones.

2nd April 2009, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by evans1089

I'm sure the same dimension discs will fit..

if the disc has a slightly different offset then its not the best.

2nd April 2009, 23:12

i said the same dimensions.. we can recreate offsets, which we do for kit cars..

2nd April 2009, 23:12

A pic taken from fags thread about brakes re cracking

2nd April 2009, 23:16

I dnt know whether we might be able to get a group buy going, as I'm after a set too!?

2nd April 2009, 23:17

I'm not allowed to sell for some reason..
we turn over about £3500+ a day lol

2nd April 2009, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by evans1089

I'm not allowed to sell for some reason..
we turn over about £3500+ a day lol

Its ultimately simos decision who trades... so no further discussion on the matter as ive said before.

2nd April 2009, 23:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

I dnt know whether we might be able to get a group buy going, as I'm after a set too!?

I know of 1 person wanting new 1 piece discs.

i need new rotors myself.

2nd April 2009, 23:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

I know of 1 person wanting new 1 piece discs.

i need new rotors myself.

How much are the bells and rotors?

2nd April 2009, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

I know of 1 person wanting new 1 piece discs.

i need new rotors myself.

just for peoples thoughts i could get you a quote?
where do you normally get them from? direct from HiSpec?

2nd April 2009, 23:22

about £140 per side plus vat iirc.

Id need to ring hispec and confirm.

2nd April 2009, 23:22

double..

2nd April 2009, 23:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

I know of 1 person wanting new 1 piece discs.

i need new rotors myself.

Maybe on Monday I'll give hispec a call and get some groupbuy prices going for 5 sets of Saxo discs (1 2puece set :-p)

2nd April 2009, 23:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by evans1089

where do you normally get them from? direct from HiSpec?

Rotors direct from hispec, machined to the specification to match my bells.

2nd April 2009, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by evans1089

just for peoples thoughts i could get you a quote?
where do you normally get them from? direct from HiSpec?

If you could do good prices I'd be u for it'!!

2nd April 2009, 23:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

about £140 per side plus vat iirc.

Id need to ring hispec and confirm.

£322 a time.. nice lol

How many you been through? that just for discs?

2nd April 2009, 23:27

Not spending that on brakes lol

Give me solids any day

2nd April 2009, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by evans1089

£322 a time.. nice lol

How many you been through? that just for discs?

whys it that a time. If the bells are fine you just fit new rotors.

I Have only used 1 set of rotors in a few years so far, and pads ive been using £12 halfords ones when they were on my road car.

the pad design is that of the volvo 240/480

2nd April 2009, 23:31

as ryan said, you only have to replace rotors..

they offer a nice weight saving also.
and dont forget its rotating unsprung mass.

2nd April 2009, 23:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

as ryan said, you only have to replace rotors..

they offer a nice weight saving also.
and dont forget its rotating unsprung mass.

And due to the alloy bells being seperate from the rotor should also be less likely to warping.

2nd April 2009, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

And due to the alloy bells being seperate from the rotor should also be less likely to warping.

smiles all round me thinks

2nd April 2009, 23:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

smiles all round me thinks

Until you ring hispec and find they lost the measurments you had them take last time you had the brakes off.

'just bring a disc up to us' - er yeah how am I meant to do that on the fucking bus?

2nd April 2009, 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Until you ring hispec and find they lost the measurments you had them take last time you had the brakes off.

'just bring a disc up to us' - er yeah how am I meant to do that on the fucking bus?

I'd be u for a set of 2piece discs for mo e if they would definately fit and HiSpec sold the right ones off the shelf.

2nd April 2009, 23:44

Most of the hispec stuff is made to order.

As i said the discs for the saxos are redrilled renault ones iirc.

They can make saxo 283mm 2piece set ups without an issue I would expect though. I dont need new bells

2nd April 2009, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan

Most of the hispec stuff is made to order.

As i said the discs for the saxos are redrilled renault ones iirc.

They can make saxo 283mm 2piece set ups without an issue I would expect though. I dont need new bells

So you reckon they could mirror the 1piece off the shelf and make a 2 piece set? I'll give them a call early next week to clarify.

2nd April 2009, 23:50

yes they can.

they have already told me and given me a price.

2nd April 2009, 23:50

they dont need to mirror it.

They will just drill a set of bells to the saxo specs. Most people dont get 2 piece discs for saxos so theres no point having them on the shelf.

They deffo have made them as I have a set of hispec 2piece discs. (Abeit now fucked lol)

2nd April 2009, 23:54

Yeh but I mean whether they can mirror a 1piece disc to produce a 2piece disc. As Ruan you said they'd lost your measurements as if they didn't know them.

2nd April 2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

yes they can.

they have already told me and given me a price.

£140 a disc+ VAT?

2nd April 2009, 23:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

Yeh but I mean whether they can mirror a 1piece disc to produce a 2piece disc. As Ruan you said they'd lost your measurements as if they didn't know them.

when you are fitting a rotor to the bell, you have to have the correct measurment or else the bolt holes etc... wont line up.

For different offsets and sizes etcc..

I think the problem was the day I last rang I didnt deal with the people who are good, but dealt with someone who was braindead.

2nd April 2009, 23:55

of course they can. im not sure if ryans 2 piece were a "special" one off and maybe thats why he cant get the rotors.?.?

butif anyone can make them hi-spec should be able to.

2nd April 2009, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

£140 a disc+ VAT?

ill have to dif out my paperwork but i have different prices to you lot as i trade with them.

2nd April 2009, 23:58

I understand now I suppose. I suppose my next question is who's upfor a set if hispec bells and rotors, 285mm odd?

2nd April 2009, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

I understand now I suppose. I suppose my next question is who's upfor a set if hispec bells and rotors, 285mm odd?

mine are 283 mm from memory.

2nd April 2009, 23:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

ill have to dif out my paperwork but i have different prices to you lot as i trade with them.

sort us out a special price, I'm ready to go now?

3rd April 2009, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by raunchz

sort us out a special price, I'm ready to go now?

i would but hi-spec are lazy cnuts and when i emailed them to get prices for everyone they coulnt be arsed to reply so im not ging to help them...

ill only get what i need form them and thats it... im even tempted to sell mine and get a new ap setup

3rd April 2009, 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannygti

i would but hi-spec are lazy cnuts and when i emailed them to get prices for everyone they coulnt be arsed to reply so im not ging to help them...

ill only get what i need form them and thats it... im even tempted to sell mine and get a new ap setup

O yes hispec and emails is not good lol!

and often getting them to pick the phone up isnt easy. I remember when people were telling them about the design issue with the long hoses, they just ignored everyone despite a few cars crashing from worn (long hoses)

Still i love my brakes