time to strip?

1. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #1 2nd April 2009, 23:22

   love my saxo to bits and its mint
   
   buttt.... i really would love the stripped look with buckets up front
   
   views? opinions? and expereice - pro's and cons of both pleasee
2. rey Saxperience Post Whore Joined: May 2006 Kent Posts: 8205 :(s)rac

   #2 2nd April 2009, 23:25

   its just a look... personally don't see a point to it unless the car see's regular track action..
   
   con, its very noisy
   
   pro, less weight, quicker acceleration
3. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #3 2nd April 2009, 23:29

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by rey its just a look... personally don't see a point to it unless the car see's regular track action.. con, its very noisy pro, less weight, quicker acceleration

   if i was going to strip id head down the track route tbh
   
   im just stuck at the min weather to keep it as a styling whore, or a track slag
   
   id go all out with which ever option i chose
4. Karl Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2006 Ashford Posts: 25611 LY R26

   #4 2nd April 2009, 23:29

   Up to you mate,
   why do you want to strip it,
   and what do you use the car for.
   
   Cons.
   Cant take mates in the car.
   Noisy as fuck if stripped fully.
   Doesnt impress women.
   
   Pros
   Better braking,
   Better cornering,
   Better acceleration,
   more fun ride.
5. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #5 2nd April 2009, 23:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Karl Up to you mate, why do you want to strip it, and what do you use the car for. Cons. Cant take mates in the car. Noisy as fuck if stripped fully. Doesnt impress women. Pros Better braking, Better cornering, Better acceleration, more fun ride.

   i totally 100% agree with that TBF
6. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #6 2nd April 2009, 23:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Karl Up to you mate, why do you want to strip it, and what do you use the car for. Cons. Cant take mates in the car. Noisy as fuck if stripped fully. Doesnt impress women. Pros Better braking, Better cornering, Better acceleration, more fun ride.

   nice one karl! as said, just looking for pros and cons of each, as really unsure which route to take with the car
   
   how much would i be looking for decent buckets btw? and do i have to buy specific saxo ones? or just get subframes that match the car?
   
   seen a couple of sets, unsure (obv without testing) if theyre any good:
   
   http://www.b-gdirect.com/category-8/T-CLUBSEAT.html
   
   http://www.sportseats4u.co.uk/sparco...ats-p-519.html
   
   again, views etc please
7. mattzsaxvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 sheffield Posts: 510 mk2 vtr

   #7 3rd April 2009, 10:55

   be ready for a uncomfy ride mate, if you do it your car will just be a weekend car if you get me ?
8. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

   #8 3rd April 2009, 18:44

   couldnt care less about ride comfort tbh lol
9. mufcdouble Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1

   #9 3rd April 2009, 19:07

   i love mine stripped and i dont use it on track
   
   i have buckets up front so dont see the need for rear seats.
   
   cons.
   noisy
   colder
   looks a mess if you dont do it properly
   
   pros
   as above
   no need to give piss pants gran parents a lift lol
10. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #10 3rd April 2009, 19:10

    Another pro, you dont have to come up with excuses for not giving folks a lift.
    
    'Can I get a lift'
    *Point in the back* 'Uuuuh, not really'.
    
    Job jobbed.
11. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #11 3rd April 2009, 19:20

    lol yeah, if im going to do it, ill do it properly and make it clean as fook tbh, ive seen it make some cars look like sheds, but id spend time painting the floors etc etc and covering up all the wires hanging out
    
    would love red buckets and a red cage in my silver saxo tbh
    
    anyone know of any good reasonable priced buckets / subframes & harnesses?
12. Tontsy Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2008 Plymouth, Fiddling - under a two poster ramp Posts: 14064 Audi

    #12 3rd April 2009, 19:24

    very noisy ... but thats a minor defect.
    
    i think its an awesome look on saxos tbh!
13. mufcdouble Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1

    #13 3rd April 2009, 19:26

    my mate has some sparcos i think black with frames
14. mufcdouble Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1

    #14 3rd April 2009, 19:28

    http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...42#post1083042
    
    them are em mate,just no harnesses

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15. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #15 4th April 2009, 10:23

    ok sooo.. if i wanted to buy THESE seats.. would THESE subframes work?
    
    alternatively, name some good buckets, frames and harnesses for not too much cost please
16. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #16 4th April 2009, 10:45

    I partially stripped mine about 3-4 weeks ago, and the pros overcome the cons. Could see a improvement in accleration, feels alot 'free-er' throught the revs.
    
    Love not getting blagged for lifts, as now i can choose 1 person that i actually want in my car.
    
    Admittily it is cold getting in in the morning. But i always warm my engine up before i go out, so leave heaters on.. ahhhh lol
    
    Just need a cage.
    
    I miss my bass too lol.
    
    Strip it partially, seats parcel shelf, any subs etc, take spare tyre off? And have a can of tyreweld in car. You could always put the seats back in if needed!

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17. Jordy6969 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1161 My bike

    #17 4th April 2009, 11:01

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ashleyp couldnt care less about ride comfort tbh lol

    yer you say that now but it fucks me off alot of the time, especially when drving down some shitty kent country shit
18. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #18 4th April 2009, 11:51

    Basically...stripping your car is selfish . As looking at karls list, all the pros only benefit the driver, and the cons affect you, but mainly your mates.
    I wouldnt strip it personally, unless you have another practical car to drive, and use the saxo just as a track car and fun car to mess around in
19. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #19 4th April 2009, 12:10

    selfish? the pros should benifit the driver, He/She paid for the car, tax, mot, insurance etc! O wait ill go spend 1.5k on some nice leather rear seats so my mates are comfortable... LMAO!.
20. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #20 4th April 2009, 12:18

    i was joking.
21. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #21 4th April 2009, 13:52

    fair point tbh nick, im really un-decided on this one, i think id have to be a passenger in a stripped car for the experience first
    
    and if i do strip, its going to look mint
22. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #22 4th April 2009, 14:27

    Tbh i think comfort out weighs the handling gains. unless you do alot of track time i wouldnt strip. cause also people may think your a bit of a noob with a stripped out saxo. its hardly as if its a track car. like a stripped scooby fair play, but not a saxo.
    
    i think 106 leathers and good ICE beats stripped out for a day to day car
23. mufcdouble Established Member Joined: Nov 2008 dudley Posts: 1593 saxo vtr mk1

    #23 4th April 2009, 19:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 Tbh i think comfort out weighs the handling gains. unless you do alot of track time i wouldnt strip. cause also people may think your a bit of a noob with a stripped out saxo. its hardly as if its a track car. like a stripped scooby fair play, but not a saxo. i think 106 leathers and good ICE beats stripped out for a day to day car

    agreed until i swapped my leather for buckets
    
    now i prefer the strip until 1 day i get pissed off with the noise il just stick my leather bench in or summet
24. user_30944 Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Chesterfield Posts: 1217 Mk1 two tone vtr :)

    #24 9th April 2009, 14:49

    strip it and see what you think . tbh i like it alot sets the car off and you get accelleration gains too
25. SmuJ Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Essex Posts: 300 Black Saxo VTS

    #25 13th April 2009, 23:45

    I was thinking of stripping my car, for one reason only- it's probably only the one free modification there is (that I can think of) but after Reading this thread I'm still in two minds LOL
26. olly_vts Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2008 T Wells/Kent Posts: 918 Clio 1.2 Grande, Saxo 1.6 VTS

    #26 14th April 2009, 01:11

    my mate had a silver gti completly stripped - no audio, cables etc with corbeau buckets and half cage - was the absolute nuts. didnt get to drive it, but was still quality as a passanger.
    
    If you like your car loud and sounding like a proper racing car lol go for it, i am soon
27. user_32279 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Southampton - Dibden Posts: 1820 Silver MK2 VTR 2000(W)reg.

    #27 14th April 2009, 01:15

    i wudnt take the seats out if i was u, wheres the car full of birds guna sit? lol
28. user_16245 Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Ipswich Posts: 1667 Saxo VTR

    #28 14th April 2009, 20:29

    Another pro is that there is less trim to rattle if its fully stripped
29. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #29 14th April 2009, 20:35

    hmm.. still tempted, gotta get the bonnet sorted 1st though after some chavs dented it!
    
    anyone breaking a saxo? silver bonnet needed lol
30. TDID Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 395 VTR

    #30 14th April 2009, 20:47

    If you're doing it for 'the look' then don't bother, once all the sound deadening is out it can be quite loud, you hear other creaks rather than interior trim rattles, the constant drone on motorways can do your head in. Unless you are building a car for track it's probably not worth it, by track I mean more than a 15 minute slot at fcs and trax.
    
    Taking the back seats out will not give you an accurate idea of what it's like, all you get is a bigger boot.
    
    You'd need to tell the insurance company too.
31. waites Infrequent Poster Joined: Dec 2008 luton Posts: 179 stripped out silver mk2 saxo vtr :)

    #31 14th April 2009, 20:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mattzsaxvtr be ready for a uncomfy ride mate, if you do it your car will just be a weekend car if you get me ?

    uncomfy ride?? not really.. mine is stripped out with buckets and its really comfy! depends what seats u buy and how low u have your car.. mine is 40mm at the front and 60mm at the back and is pretty smooth..
32. user_31390 Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2009 glossop Posts: 314 saxo 1.4 furio in blue

    #32 15th April 2009, 00:22

    i think it looks great wen done with cage buckets etc plus u dont have 2 be moaned at all time 4 lifts ere and ther
33. SmuJ Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Essex Posts: 300 Black Saxo VTS

    #33 15th April 2009, 13:47

    Do roll cages weigh quite a lot?
34. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #34 15th April 2009, 13:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SmuJ Do roll cages weigh quite a lot?

    it depends
    some weight like 10kg
    
    mine weighs 55
35. user_31895 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 Milton Keynes Posts: 601 Polar white VTS Fixed for the 2nd time!

    #35 15th April 2009, 14:18

    cage all the way!
36. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #36 15th April 2009, 14:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS it depends some weight like 10kg mine weighs 55

    Doesn't this make stripping pointless then if it adds more weight than it removes?
    
    Unless of course you only use the car on track then obviously you need the cage for safety purposes/regulations.
    
    But if its just the look your after then its going to weigh the car down more than it would weigh as standard, therefore making it slower?
    
    James
37. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #37 15th April 2009, 14:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob Doesn't this make stripping pointless then if it adds more weight than it removes? Unless of course you only use the car on track then obviously you need the cage for safety purposes/regulations. But if its just the look your after then its going to weigh the car down more than it would weigh as standard, therefore making it slower? James

    
    well mine adds a lot of structure to the car and removes the shell flex
    and i have removed a lot more than just the interior from my car
    
    and trust me im not just caging mine for the look
    its an out and out track car atm its a mild spec but hey i cant afford madness yet lool
38. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #38 15th April 2009, 14:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS well mine adds a lot of structure to the car and removes the shell flex and i have removed a lot more than just the interior from my car and trust me im not just caging mine for the look its an out and out track car atm its a mild spec but hey i cant afford madness yet lool

    Yeh i can understand it being needed for a track car but a daily driver or a fast road car it has the opposite affect dont it? Instead of being lighter, its heavier?
    
    Unless the saxo interior weighs a huge amount?
    
    I know my front seats aren't very heavy at all so i guess the back bench isn't either, and saxos are hardly full of sound proofing, so it seems ointless stripping and putting a cage in, unless its a track car where a cage is a requirement of the regulations.
    
    For a fast road car would losing small bits weight here and there be better? Such as the spare wheel and swapping the standard exhaust system for a stainless steel one be better? Its not alot but it will lighten the car up a little, also leave the heavy subs and amps out and it will be lighter than standard, whilst still being practical (ie has five seats and is quiet(ish) and fairly comfortable), and its all free, no cage or spray work to be done.
    
    James
39. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #39 15th April 2009, 14:45

    The whole track slag look is wank.
40. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #40 15th April 2009, 14:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob Yeh i can understand it being needed for a track car but a daily driver or a fast road car it has the opposite affect dont it? Instead of being lighter, its heavier? Unless the saxo interior weighs a huge amount? I know my front seats aren't very heavy at all so i guess the back bench isn't either, and saxos are hardly full of sound proofing, so it seems ointless stripping and putting a cage in, unless its a track car where a cage is a requirement of the regulations. For a fast road car would losing small bits weight here and there be better? Such as the spare wheel and swapping the standard exhaust system for a stainless steel one be better? Its not alot but it will lighten the car up a little, also leave the heavy subs and amps out and it will be lighter than standard, whilst still being practical (ie has five seats and is quiet(ish) and fairly comfortable), and its all free, no cage or spray work to be done. James

    the full interior iirc is about 40kgs
    
    imo in a daily you dont want a cage ect as your imroving your risk of injury (yes i know its odd) but you bring the interior closer to you
    a bar to the head will hurt a lot more than a bit of head lining
    
    its all a bit of a hit and miss idea
    
    i will be using mine on he road for a bit but atm its not got the cage in
    
    if ou wanna cage on the road then get a half cage as its away from your head
41. dannyboy2005 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 BEDFORD, GUILDFORD, WAYBRIDGE Posts: 4172 Punt -y0

    #41 15th April 2009, 14:53

    I've never seen you anywhere Ash.
42. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #42 15th April 2009, 14:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danr The whole track slag look is wank.

    I agree unless of course it is a true track car
    
    James
43. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #43 15th April 2009, 14:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jim-Bob I agree unless of course it is a true track car James

    Then it's not a look
44. dinga Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 not brazil,northern ireland Posts: 763 vts

    #44 15th April 2009, 14:55

    only 40 kgs ? i have most of my interior in a heap in the corner of the garage.
    waiting on a decent set of scales so i can weigh each item of trim.
    half cage is something like 19-27kgs ?
45. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #45 15th April 2009, 14:56

    tbh the guys with a cage ect to look cool annoy me
    i dunno why but i dont see the point inhaving a heavily unpractical car to be cool
    
    mines stripped as i wil be tracking it and i will have a daily
    atm its my only car but it will still see track time as soon as i can afford to
46. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #46 15th April 2009, 14:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dinga only 40 kgs ? i have most of my interior in a heap in the corner of the garage. waiting on a decent set of scales so i can weigh each item of trim. half cage is something like 19-27kgs ?

    a half cage can be about 8 or 9 kg mate
    
    full cages can be 19 (see omp lightweight 10 point)
47. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #47 15th April 2009, 15:04

    not exactly a show cage
    
    
    
    as you can see thats a failry substantial cage
    tbh its overkill on pretty much anything apart from a full competition car but hey i figured why not lol
    definatley a no no in a road car tbh
    but then again i have 300lb springs so its not going to be a useable car lol
48. dinga Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2008 not brazil,northern ireland Posts: 763 vts

    #48 15th April 2009, 15:15

    the sd cages are the nuts,but far from practical on a road car.
    im looking to turn my car into a weekend/track car.
    as far as looks go,i just dont care.
49. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #49 15th April 2009, 15:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dinga the sd cages are the nuts,but far from practical on a road car. im looking to turn my car into a weekend/track car. as far as looks go,i just dont care.

    you pay for them by the inch though lol
    that was 869 quid and its gonna ost another 400 to fit
    
    thats the way im thinking with mine
    its all about how it goes not how it looks
    hence mines not a tidy car at all but it seems (from the very short drive with no brakes) to go like stink
50. user_29491 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Lancs Posts: 4124 JP4S'd R.

    #50 15th April 2009, 15:25

    i missed my bass too much, so i got some vtr alloys and put all my interior back in
51. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #51 15th April 2009, 15:33

    cant beat the sound of my piper at 7.5k lol
    
    no sterio ftw
    i have an ipod if i wanna go far
52. user_26132 Frequent Poster Joined: Aug 2008 Notts Posts: 917 Saxo VTS

    #52 15th April 2009, 18:20

    I stripped my 2x subs + Amp and the rear seats + carpet out of My VTS.
    
    Seats weighed f00k all so i'm gonna slap them abck in and take the spare wheel out to counter the weight from the subs!
    
    Does seem a bit nippier though.
53. 3cott Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts

    #53 15th April 2009, 18:28

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Karl Up to you mate, why do you want to strip it, and what do you use the car for. Cons. Cant take mates in the car. Noisy as fuck if stripped fully. Doesnt impress women. Pros Better braking, Better cornering, Better acceleration, more fun ride.

    Narriowed it down to a t
54. Ashleyp Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2008 Bedford & Manchester Posts: 17504

    #54 15th April 2009, 19:27

    guys, i wouldnt be doing it for the look..
    
    im unsure on the route i want to take on the car, track car, or subtle styling..
    
    if i was to strip id go the whole way and make a mild spec track slut
55. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #55 16th April 2009, 18:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ashleyp guys, i wouldnt be doing it for the look.. im unsure on the route i want to take on the car, track car, or subtle styling.. if i was to strip id go the whole way and make a mild spec track slut

    Subtle FTW mate, your car looks lovely as it is, if its performance your looking at next, do that, but keep it looking OE on the outside so its a real sleeper.
    
    James