SS Race System or Ashley Comp System

1. user_12092 Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS

   #1 12th April 2009, 22:07

   What would you have and why?
2. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

   #2 12th April 2009, 22:10

   I gotta say it depends if you want the noise or not? Everyone seems to rate the Ashley system as one of the best sounding, and the exit is perfect size. But as you know, the fitting is a bit shitty but can be made to fit as I found out yesterday, just needs some time under the car.
3. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #3 12th April 2009, 22:11

   Personally i would rather have Ashley, i just prefare them. And does anyone know what the SS backbox thats big is called? something like magnum?
4. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #4 12th April 2009, 22:17

   the supersprint backbox with the 4 inch tailpipe is called the magnum
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 12th April 2009, 22:19

   SS with the magnum backbox ftw
6. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

   #6 12th April 2009, 22:25

   Isn't the supersprint 2 inch (50mm) race system (straight through centre pipe and backbox) built for optimal performance, if that what your looking for?
   
   Correct me if i'm wrong Kam
   
   James
7. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #7 12th April 2009, 22:44

   2inch is two small imo, doesnt fill the gap enough.
   
   2.5inch janspeed is perfection tho
8. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #8 12th April 2009, 22:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Jim-Bob Isn't the supersprint 2 inch (50mm) race system (straight through centre pipe and backbox) built for optimal performance, if that what your looking for? Correct me if i'm wrong Kam James

   Yes but not everyone wants that!
   
   Also you have to consider the material they are made out of.
   Ashley is a mild steel competition system. It will rust quickly and will have a limited lifespan
   The supersprint is aluminised steel and will last a lot longer.
   
   Kev
9. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #9 12th April 2009, 22:47

   great advice as always kam
10. Jim-Bob Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Bicester, Oxfordshire Posts: 5704 Looking for a 205...

    #10 12th April 2009, 22:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing Yes but not everyone wants that! Also you have to consider the material they are made out of. Ashley is a mild steel competition system. It will rust quickly and will have a limited lifespan The supersprint is aluminised steel and will last a lot longer. Kev

    True but still looks better than standard imo, and when it comes to more power it seems silly to waste BHP on looks, especially when it looks as good, if not better than the standard one.
    
    James
11. AlexR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2004 Kunt & Sorrey Posts: 5763 Rep mobiles & Joes ma

    #11 12th April 2009, 23:05

    Although i respect supersprint hugely, i don't think they spent much time and effort designing the saxo systems. The manifold is an extremely good bit of kit though, once you weld it together
12. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #12 12th April 2009, 23:06

    ashley, sound excellent look good and work well with the tu engines
13. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #13 12th April 2009, 23:26

    They rolling road every system they design so there will be a gain with the supersprint. Whats your issue with it?. Whatever the amount of time spent, we have had plenty of customers comparing their systems on rolling roads with good results.
    Theres no need to weld the manifold bits together, but you need exhaust paste otherwise it wont seal, just like any other slide-on exhaust part...
    
    I cant say whether you will get more power on lightly tuned saxos than an Ashley system. I dont know any details on Ashley's pipe bore etc and have no knowledge of how they design them, but whatever their process is, our customers need something that will last, and something that will fit together as good as a standard part.
14. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #14 13th April 2009, 17:55

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    Originally Posted by KamRacing They rolling road every system they design so there will be a gain with the supersprint. Whats your issue with it?. Whatever the amount of time spent, we have had plenty of customers comparing their systems on rolling roads with good results. Theres no need to weld the manifold bits together, but you need exhaust paste otherwise it wont seal, just like any other slide-on exhaust part... I cant say whether you will get more power on lightly tuned saxos than an Ashley system. I dont know any details on Ashley's pipe bore etc and have no knowledge of how they design them, but whatever their process is, our customers need something that will last, and something that will fit together as good as a standard part.

    what paste do you recommend?
15. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #15 13th April 2009, 18:23

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    Originally Posted by saxo_90 what paste do you recommend?

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16. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #16 13th April 2009, 18:30

    KY? lol
17. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #17 13th April 2009, 19:49

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    Originally Posted by saxo_90 what paste do you recommend?

    its all the same sort of stuff. Pop down your local motorfactor and get a tube.
    It will be called something like exhaust assembly paste.
    
    This expands and dries hard with the heat from exhaust gases so turn on the engine and let the car idle to bring it up to temperature.
    
    If you are running group A engine mounts or similar then the engine vibration may break the seal as it dries solid. If this is the case then use some high temperature gasket sealer (would need to cope with over 300degrees.)
    
    Then make sure everything is done up nice and tight!
    
    Kev

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18. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #18 13th April 2009, 19:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing its all the same sort of stuff. Pop down your local motorfactor and get a tube. It will be called something like exhaust assembly paste. This expands and dries hard with the heat from exhaust gases so turn on the engine and let the car idle to bring it up to temperature. If you are running group A engine mounts or similar then the engine vibration may break the seal as it dries solid. If this is the case then use some high temperature gasket sealer (would need to cope with over 300degrees.) Then make sure everything is done up nice and tight! Kev

    thanks
    
    after applying the paste could you not wrap some heat wrapping round it?
19. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #19 13th April 2009, 19:55

    Left a comment on your page but no reply yet, Out of interest kam will an OMP backbox pair with a SS race centre section? As i've found myself an OMP backbox and really fancy it
20. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #20 13th April 2009, 19:55

    heat wrap will not seal it though so would not be a solution.
21. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #21 13th April 2009, 19:56

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    Originally Posted by Krys_23 Left a comment on your page but no reply yet, Out of interest kam will an OMP backbox pair with a SS race centre section? As i've found myself an OMP backbox and really fancy it

    if its an olive (standard) fitment then it will go on.
    
    Kev
22. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #22 13th April 2009, 20:03

    This one :
    
    
    
    
23. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

    #23 13th April 2009, 20:04

    Someone has been on ebay
24. Krys_23 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6543

    #24 13th April 2009, 20:44

    Indeed they have, Might aswell snatch a bargain