Help! dead vts!!

1. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

   #1 15th April 2009, 12:07

   I went 2 start my vts this morning and nothing.... all lights come on,fuel pump primes but when the ignition iz turned all u hear is a click,it doesn't even turn over... any help would be appreciated.
2. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

   #2 15th April 2009, 12:08

   plugs not sparking?
3. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #3 15th April 2009, 12:14

   that sounds like a flat battery
4. Hpi_matrix Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Hertford/Derby Posts: 1272 MG BGT, AX Gti

   #4 15th April 2009, 12:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Alex-VTS that sounds like a flat battery

   +1
5. user_31339 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Knaresborough Posts: 777 White MK2 VTS

   #5 15th April 2009, 13:17

   Cant be the battery all the lights are working.
6. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #6 15th April 2009, 13:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by stevosvts Cant be the battery all the lights are working.

   the lights work but theres not enough power to turn the motor over
7. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #7 15th April 2009, 13:41

   low battery power, battery cable/terminal, loose starter cable, starter fuse loose/blown.
   try these and see how you get on
8. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #8 15th April 2009, 13:42

   b82rez mush!!!
9. SmuJ Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Essex Posts: 300 Black Saxo VTS

   #9 15th April 2009, 13:49

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gouldy87 b82rez mush!!!

   lol - yeah soundz like the battery.
10. user_31339 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Knaresborough Posts: 777 White MK2 VTS

    #10 15th April 2009, 14:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS the lights work but theres not enough power to turn the motor over

    lol I fail
11. lavo-vts Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jul 2006 derbyshire Posts: 3515 mk1 vts (ETW Mercury Grey)

    #11 15th April 2009, 14:18

    battery iz flat
12. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #12 15th April 2009, 14:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 b82rez mush!!!

    yea mate,lol
    Cheers for the help boys ive checked the fuses next 2 the battery they're all fine where's the starter cable n is the fuse for the starter with the others next to the battery?the battery seems fine and the terminals are all good,the starter usualy makes some sort of noise even if the battery is low but absolutely nuthin happens when you turn the key 2 start it all u hear is a click from inside the car down by the diagnostic port which i assume is a relay or sumthin which is normal but that's as far as it gets
13. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #13 15th April 2009, 14:38

    the click is the solenoid on the motor popping over
    
    the battery is too low to turn the motor
    give it a jump/charge and itll run
14. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #14 15th April 2009, 15:11

    try bumping it and then turn it of and try it again. some times works
15. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #15 15th April 2009, 16:46

    it isn't the battery ive just tested the battery and its in good condition and got loads of charge,ive also bumped the car and it runs fine but turn it off and it just happens again,starter motor?
16. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #16 15th April 2009, 16:50

    Have you tried jump starting it?
17. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

    #17 15th April 2009, 16:53

    bumped started it and it worked? then switched off and didnt turn back over? = battery dead, or alternator isnt charging battery when idling.
18. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #18 15th April 2009, 16:55

    How did you test the battery? What reading did you get?
19. user_25207 Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2008 Leicester Posts: 190 Saxo VTR

    #19 15th April 2009, 16:59

    if your turning engine off immediately it wont take any affect, give the car a gd run for the alternator to charge it.
20. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

    #20 15th April 2009, 17:00

    smack the starter with a hammer while turning over?
21. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #21 15th April 2009, 17:31

    yea i know u have 2 run it for a fair bit to charge and to be honest i only took it 2 the end of my road but the battery's definetely got good charge but when i turned it off,tried 2 start it.... nuthin.If u bump start it,it goes fine,jump start from another car or try starting it on its own power and nothing happens,all dash lights are on, all electrics work and u can hear the fuel pump prime but u turn the key 2 actualy start it and nuthin...wont make a sound or even attempt 2 start..so cant be alternator or battery?
22. user_32464 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Trackside Posts: 2624 1.1 saxo died :( now on the look for another

    #22 15th April 2009, 17:41

    wat readings you get off the battery?
23. VtrFarlz86 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Ferryhill North East Posts: 423 Saxo Vtr MK2 breaking mk1 wicked red

    #23 15th April 2009, 17:42

    If this helps m8, i had the same problem, my alternator cable had corroded away.
24. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #24 15th April 2009, 17:46

    just under 15v when runnin n 12 when off
25. user_32464 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Trackside Posts: 2624 1.1 saxo died :( now on the look for another

    #25 15th April 2009, 17:48

    that not enough m8 to turn it over. wen you turn the it will drag so much out it will drop down to 9 and wont start. i have this problem alot at work
26. renagademaster4 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 motherwell , scotland Posts: 911 saxo vts , saxo vts , jeep cherokee

    #26 15th April 2009, 17:48

    its fucked m8 , i'll give u £400 for it
27. user_32464 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Trackside Posts: 2624 1.1 saxo died :( now on the look for another

    #27 15th April 2009, 17:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by renagademaster4 its fucked m8 , i'll give u £400 for it

    that much lol
28. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

    #28 15th April 2009, 17:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by _VTR_ just under 15v when runnin n 12 when off

    Under 12.2v is a flat battery
29. user_32464 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Trackside Posts: 2624 1.1 saxo died :( now on the look for another

    #29 15th April 2009, 17:53

    get a new battery
30. renagademaster4 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 motherwell , scotland Posts: 911 saxo vts , saxo vts , jeep cherokee

    #30 15th April 2009, 17:54

    starter solenoid
31. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #31 15th April 2009, 17:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tinytim6666 that not enough m8 to turn it over. wen you turn the it will drag so much out it will drop down to 9 and wont start.

    But it wont start even with a jump from another car?however bump start it and its fine,starter motor jammed or just fuked?the way it looks is that there is enough power in the battery but for some reason that power is either not getting to the starter motor or the starter motor is not working
32. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #32 15th April 2009, 18:00

    starter solenoid?how do i check tht,i was waiting for someone who knows more than i do to suggest that
33. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #33 15th April 2009, 18:05

    take the connectors of the starter motor and clean them up. Also test using a meter what feed your getting on the starter cables.
    
    if the motor had gone the solenoid would still work and visa versa, very rare for both to go.
    
    Check all earths ect.
    
    If you can get the starter of connect to a battery to see if it spins.
34. renagademaster4 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 motherwell , scotland Posts: 911 saxo vts , saxo vts , jeep cherokee

    #34 15th April 2009, 18:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by _VTR_ starter solenoid?how do i check tht,i was waiting for someone who knows more than i do to suggest that

    starter soliniod is mounted just to the side if the starter if u dont know what it is , give it a tap on the end with a hammer , then try starting it , it sumtimes frees it up , or sumtimes starting it in gear shocks the soliniod
    and frees it
    
    
    
    
35. _VTR_ L-plater Joined: Jan 2007 Hampshire (UK) Posts: 87 1999 silver vts lowered,pipercross,de-cat,ashley e

    #35 15th April 2009, 22:37

    sorted it just gave the solenoid a couple of whacks with a hammer n sorted starts first time every time lyk it did before thanks for all the help guys
36. user_32464 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Trackside Posts: 2624 1.1 saxo died :( now on the look for another

    #36 15th April 2009, 22:40

    well done chap
37. renagademaster4 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 motherwell , scotland Posts: 911 saxo vts , saxo vts , jeep cherokee

    #37 15th April 2009, 23:23

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by _VTR_ sorted it just gave the solenoid a couple of whacks with a hammer n sorted starts first time every time lyk it did before thanks for all the help guys

    
    hate to burst ur bubble m8 but thats just a temp fix , 9 times outs 10 it will happen again m u will need a new soliniod soon , u'll pick a starter/soliniod up cheap enough on here
38. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

    #38 16th April 2009, 10:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by renagademaster4 hate to burst ur bubble m8 but thats just a temp fix , 9 times outs 10 it will happen again m u will need a new soliniod soon , u'll pick a starter/soliniod up cheap enough on here

    be ok, he can cary round the new battery that every one told him to get a hit it with that
39. user_21226 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 wirral Posts: 6348 Icelandic vtr turbo

    #39 16th April 2009, 13:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gixxa be ok, he can cary round the new battery that every one told him to get a hit it with that

    hahahaha priceless
40. user_32481 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Milk 'n' Beans (Milton Keynes, MK2) Posts: 3243 MK1 Trackin S engined R, 112.5 ATW, approx 135 ATF

    #40 16th April 2009, 18:00

    if its a clicking sound then its the battery, enough to power stuff but not enough to turn over