C2 vts gearbox

1. adam1490 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Leicster Posts: 352 cammed vts :P

   #1 16th April 2009, 15:47

   Hello guys, just wondering if i put a c2 vts engine in a saxo vts, are they the same gearbox as a saxo vts? also is it a straight swap engine wise? thanks
2. mik Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 tamworth Posts: 629 vts gti-6 XKR

   #2 16th April 2009, 18:06

   why what advantages is there with a c2
3. user_32276 Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 Shropshire Posts: 1074 Furio

   #3 16th April 2009, 18:11

   ^ i dont uderstand why you would want to swap it?
4. r_i_c_h_1 Regular Poster Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 305

   #4 16th April 2009, 18:43

   C2 vts has 125bhp extra 5! lol. I'm thinking the real reason would have more to do with being able to get a lower milage one that hasn't been thrashed around is alot easier than sourcing a saxo vts one in the same condition....
5. mik Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 tamworth Posts: 629 vts gti-6 XKR

   #5 16th April 2009, 19:06

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by r_i_c_h_1 C2 vts has 125bhp extra 5! lol. I'm thinking the real reason would have more to do with being able to get a lower milage one that hasn't been thrashed around is alot easier than sourcing a saxo vts one in the same condition....

   good point so is it a straight swap
6. ne_jam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 stockton-on-tees United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3018 Astra Mk4

   #6 16th April 2009, 19:12

   i always woundered weather it would be possible to fit a c2 vtr box onto a saxo and have the sequential box
7. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #7 16th April 2009, 19:13

   c2 vts box will fit, but you'll need to bend the gear linkage....
8. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

   #8 16th April 2009, 19:16

   i think you will find the c2 box uses hydrolic clucth and cable gear change so it would be a fair amount of work to do it..
   
   would make for a good conversion as the casing is better quality so stronger.
9. mik Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 tamworth Posts: 629 vts gti-6 XKR

   #9 16th April 2009, 19:24

   spare rebuilt vts motor in the shed the best way ..sitting there ready for doom day
10. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

    #10 16th April 2009, 19:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dannygti i think you will find the c2 box uses hydrolic clucth and cable gear change so it would be a fair amount of work to do it.. would make for a good conversion as the casing is better quality so stronger.

    do you know that for sure danny?
    
    as i had the 206 xsi box on my vts (not the same box but similar)
11. dannygti Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 dudley United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6790 106 gti/ SEAT LCR

    #11 17th April 2009, 17:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankie do you know that for sure danny? as i had the 206 xsi box on my vts (not the same box but similar)

    not for sure. there may be a cut off point of the cable operated box's and hydrolic ones.
    i know tam uses the later c2 vts box in his 240bhp ax due to the casing being stronger and the cable gearchange is much much easier going on the synchros and hydrolic clutch makes big heavy paddle clutches feel light. his box has been reliable for over 2 years and thats on slicks.
12. ne_jam Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2005 stockton-on-tees United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3018 Astra Mk4

    #12 17th April 2009, 17:49

    could you fit a c2 vtr box onto say a saxo vtr then
13. adam1490 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Leicster Posts: 352 cammed vts :P

    #13 17th April 2009, 17:52

    yes that is the reason why, i want to get an engine that is low mileage, and not been thrashed, i shall speak to my dad tonight about this as he owns a gearbox company,and if it is possible i shall get a c2 vts box fitted and make the thread on what needs doing to fit one.
14. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #14 17th April 2009, 17:59

    What are the ratios in the C2 boxes like? Same gearset as the Saxo S box, but a different final drive?
15. adam1490 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Leicster Posts: 352 cammed vts :P

    #15 20th April 2009, 01:02

    i think the ratio's are not much different from the saxo vts and the c2 vts
16. vtr-tec Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2007 Newark Posts: 540 Saxo vtr 16V CRX VT 91' Civic EK

    #16 20th April 2009, 13:47

    as danny says the c2 uses a hydro clutch therefore wouldnt fit without modifying the pedal box and m/c system. another thing to consider is that the c2 has a cable gear linkage system so the shifter system has to be converted like tams in his ax racecar.
17. Roby86GT Newbie Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 3

    #17 2nd August 2010, 18:19

    Hi guys I write from Italy are there news about C2 gearbox on Saxo VTS??
    
    thanks