what else will i need??

1. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #1 17th April 2009, 23:22

   i want newman ph's 3 but i dont know much about cams it will be for a mk2 vtr . what else do i need to do to get best results and how much cheers guys
2. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #2 17th April 2009, 23:23

   A remap mate
   
   You already have all the breathing mods aswell i take it?
3. user_10473 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2006 Swansea Posts: 4946 Bianca White Peugeot 106 S2 Rallye, Saxo VTS

   #3 17th April 2009, 23:24

   + breathing mods.
   
   (full exhaust, decent induction, etc)
4. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #4 17th April 2009, 23:26

   id recommend you do your homework before jumping in and buying a cam.
   
   theres alot you need to know about the pro's cons of changing them over.
   
   pro's being quicker car ob.
   
   cons being shit idle, loss of low down power, fuel comsumption etc.
5. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #5 17th April 2009, 23:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by PETE-VTR id recommend you do your homework before jumping in and buying a cam. theres alot you need to know about the pro's cons of changing them over. pro's being quicker car ob. cons being shit idle, loss of low down power, fuel comsumption etc.

   
   A remap will usually sort this out pretty well, may still be a little more lumpy than usual, but hardly noticable.
6. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #6 17th April 2009, 23:38

   may want to look into getting new followers and such
7. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

   #7 18th April 2009, 00:11

   is there any were you can get a fullkit and how much to fit and how much to remap ?
8. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #8 18th April 2009, 00:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by DJVTR is there any were you can get a fullkit and how much to fit and how much to remap ?

   A good remap will be around £400 - £500
9. PETE-VTR Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 york/ north yorkshire Posts: 1953

   #9 18th April 2009, 00:13

   fullkit?
   
   cam 180-250
   adjust. pulley 80-120
   fitting at manic motors 160
   headset and bolts 40-60
   followers and lifters about 300. not sure about these tho.
   remap 300-500
   
   it doesent come cheap this camming lark
10. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

    #10 18th April 2009, 00:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PETE-VTR fullkit? cam 180-250 adjust. pulley 80-120 fitting at manic motors 160 headset and bolts 40-60 followers and lifters about 300. not sure about these tho. remap 300-500 it doesent come cheap this camming lark

    so for over £1000 what sort of figures awe we getting ?
11. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #11 18th April 2009, 00:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DJVTR so for over £1000 what sort of figures awe we getting ?

    Can be had for about £800
    
    And i have seen gains of upto 25bhp + from PH3s and a remap

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12. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

    #12 18th April 2009, 00:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 Can be had for about £800 And the gains with the PH3s and a remap wil be around 25bhp +

    25+ bhp
    thats quite alot
    
    what sort of thing would i look at to get 150 bhp ?
    
    my mates got a honda civic vti v-tech would be fun to beat him
13. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #13 18th April 2009, 00:42

    You have a 90bhp VTR engine or 98bhp?
    
    I think the saxo will be a but lighter than your mates civic anyway so its a plus side
14. DJVTR Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 northamptonshire Posts: 719 saxo furio/vtr

    #14 18th April 2009, 00:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 You have a 90bhp VTR engine or 98bhp? I think the saxo will be a but lighter than your mates civic anyway so its a plus side

    
    im getting the 98 bhp
    
    ye my m8s civic is 160 but he weighs twice as much
15. Ben Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 5469 Ecoboost

    #15 18th April 2009, 00:48

    You'd probably need a new venier pulley aswell.
16. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #16 18th April 2009, 00:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DJVTR im getting the 98 bhp ye my m8s civic is 160 but he weighs twice as much

    Catback exhaust, decat, 4-2-1 manifold, p+p tb, induction kit, PH3s, remap. And lose some weight from the car, and you will give him a very good go for his money.
    
    Also look into suspension, brakes and tyres, they make all the difference on track