Gearbox recon + maybe diff where to go?

  1. Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Hereford Posts: 1381 Indigo 16v Rallye + 2 VTS's
    #1
    Wheres the best place to send a gearbox im looking at buying to be recon'd and maybe a diff fitted? And prices off the top of any ones head? Poss need ryans input lol.
  2. Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Hereford Posts: 1381 Indigo 16v Rallye + 2 VTS's
    #2
    Anydody?
  3. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS
    #3
    I believe you need to go to a bloke called Mankee? He is awsome for rebuilding gearboxs (heard from someone who had it done, and also seen pics of his work)

    I believe he on SSC
  4. Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 751
    #4
    quaife, tweaqed automotive, gmc etc.... there are numberous.

    If getting a quaife fitted i would go straight to quaife themselves and get them to rebuild the box at the same time.
  5. Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Hereford Posts: 1381 Indigo 16v Rallye + 2 VTS's
    #5
    Cheers for the replies lads yates pm'd me about that mankee believe hes on rallye reg so pay a visit over there. Think quaiffe themselves would be a fair bit more expensive than anyone else.
  6. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 3017 Honda DC5, Gruppe M and j's racing
    #6
    Recommend mankee. He built my box and its perfect.
  7. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #7
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yr51ocw View Post
    quaife, tweaqed automotive, gmc etc.... there are numberous.

    If getting a quaife fitted i would go straight to quaife themselves and get them to rebuild the box at the same time.

    Only need to get quaife to machine the diff onto the crownwheel, there are plenty of box builders cheaper than them

    RE mankee: best to contact him on rallyereg
  8. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS
    #8
    Sorry for hijack but how much and how easy would it be for a xsi or rallye box to have the 5th gear out of a vtr box fitted?
  9. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #9
    5th gear is the easy gear to change on MA gearboxes
  10. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS
    #10
    How easy lol
  11. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #11
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -Jason- View Post
    How easy lol
    its the only gear on the MA box that can be changed not removing the entire gearset.

    5th can be had by removing the end cap iirc
  12. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS
    #12
    As I want an xsi/rallye box but dont want 80-90mph to be 5k revs as 20,000 miles a year would be a nightmare
  13. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #13
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -Jason- View Post
    Sorry for hijack but how much and how easy would it be for a xsi or rallye box to have the 5th gear out of a vtr box fitted?
    iirc there the same ratio
    so would be no point in doing it unless one is ruined
  14. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS
    #14
    Is the 5th gear on the VTR box not majorly longer than the rallye/xsi?
  15. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by -Jason- View Post
    Is the 5th gear on the VTR box not majorly longer than the rallye/xsi?
    final drive is but thats not 5th gear
    the clusters are the same in thbe xsi rallye vtr and vts boxes
  16. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #16
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    final drive is but thats not 5th gear
    the clusters are the same in thbe xsi rallye vtr and vts boxes
    http://www.106owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=30004
  17. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS
    #17
    Wow to many numbers
  18. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #18
    i stand corrected
    im sure i got told they all ran the same on shed

    ah well i know now lol
  19. Saxperience Addict Joined: Oct 2006 Inside Your Girlfriend Posts: 12190 Fabia vRS
    #19
    Thats why I want to use 1,2,3 + 4 for acceleration (xsi/rallye) and the 5th from the vtr for motorway cruising
  20. Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut
    #20
    problem i can see is if the 5th is 'tall' in relation to the other gears you could potentially end up with a massive rev drop when changing from 4th to 5th.
  21. West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL
    #21
    straight out of the power
    would be a pain on track if you ever needed 5th
  22. Established Member Joined: Mar 2006 Farnham Surrey Posts: 1542 AX GT 16v turbo 6 speed with NOS 205 gti6 E 320
    #22
    if mankee cant fit you in we have built loads of MA's on ssc
  23. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS
    #23
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    problem i can see is if the 5th is 'tall' in relation to the other gears you could potentially end up with a massive rev drop when changing from 4th to 5th.
    It's no problem really

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Alex-VTS View Post
    straight out of the power
    would be a pain on track if you ever needed 5th
    have you even needed 5th on a track before???
  24. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #24
    I've tried to tell people for ages that the VTR box has different ratios to the VTS box, but nobody would listen. Albeit, the differences are slight. Changing the 5th gear wouldn't make a huge difference, but it would be slightly better for top end.
  25. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS
    #25
    1.4xsi FD + VTR 5th is roughly equal to standard vts FD and vts 5th.
  26. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Reading Posts: 8980 French tin can
    #26
    Good work Ads.
  27. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS
    #27
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Toad View Post
    Good work Ads.
    1.7% difference... that's all.

    so at 70mph in 5th you're looking at a difference of 60rpm. lol
  28. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #28
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by adsayer View Post
    It's no problem really



    have you even needed 5th on a track before???
    Yes, On the Nurburgring on the way down to the Fox Hole!
  29. Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS
    #29
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by jpsaxo View Post
    Yes, On the Nurburgring on the way down to the Fox Hole!
    I knew some smart ass would mention the ring...
  30. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Oct 2005 Sydney Posts: 8525 Mango Westcoast
    #30
    Lol.... Its true tho! But saying that on any UK track you would never get near 5th imo, unless its boosted!! Saying that the new long pit straight at Donnington would be interesting!