Hesitation problems

1. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

   #1 19th April 2009, 12:32

   Hi guys.
   
   Just got hold of a '98 VTS a week ago. sweeeet car but there is a problem that is getting on my tits somewhat.
   
   when i first got it, the car started hesitating between 1.5-and 3k, i say hesitating because thats the only way of describing it other than spluttering.
   
   i thought not much of this but then yesterday as i was giving it some welly it starting doing it (although no where near as bad as the lower gears).
   
   Any ideas?
   
   Cheers
   
   Steve
2. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #2 19th April 2009, 13:18

   maybe check the lamdba sensor, asmine did this when cold it would stick abit at 2k for about sec then go, it turned out to be my lamdba sensor.
   
   andy
3. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

   #3 19th April 2009, 13:42

   Thanks for reply andy.
   
   looking around here ive seen it could be either the lambda or the coil pack, kinda hoping the first one as i think its a lot cheaper and easier to fit?
4. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

   #4 19th April 2009, 13:50

   na the coil packs are cheaper on a vts,
   
   it could be alot o different things, try pluging it in for a fualt diagnosis?
5. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #5 19th April 2009, 13:57

   Try find someone with a 106/vts closer to ya matey and try a lil swapping session as it could be one of about 6 things, recomend replacing fuel filter 1st as they cheap
6. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

   #6 19th April 2009, 14:21

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Bickerton Try find someone with a 106/vts closer to ya matey and try a lil swapping session as it could be one of about 6 things, recomend replacing fuel filter 1st as they cheap

   is it going to be worth taking it to the garage simply to identify the problem then fix myself?
   just thinking they have all the equipment, and would only cost about 30 notes to do.
7. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #7 19th April 2009, 14:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Steve87 is it going to be worth taking it to the garage simply to identify the problem then fix myself? just thinking they have all the equipment, and would only cost about 30 notes to do.

   Took my 106 to a proper peugeot garage for a diagnostic jobby (uncle inlaw works there so was cheap) came up with nothing, the wonderful Mr willsy gave me a MAP sensor and has as good as sorted the issue.
   If you got the spare cash i recommend a garage diag routine but if a sensor is working at that moment in time it will come up with nothing, reckon it's the ECU temp sensor myself.
8. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

   #8 19th April 2009, 14:38

   annoying to say the least, only just got it and im having to fork out repairing it. after a week!
9. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

   #9 19th April 2009, 14:42

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Steve87 annoying to say the least, only just got it and im having to fork out repairing it. after a week!

   Meh my headgasket went, was caused by a dodgy radiator that needed replacing and they needed to break my cam covers off as all the bolts were fucked, £550+ quid in less than 2 weeks
10. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #10 19th April 2009, 14:45

    annoying to say the least, only just got it and im having to fork out repairing it. after a week!
11. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #11 19th April 2009, 14:47

    sorry guys *double hit enter*
12. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #12 19th April 2009, 14:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve87 annoying to say the least, only just got it and im having to fork out repairing it. after a week!

    Pop a new fuel filter on and put a bottle of redex through it, see if that sorts it atall, cheap and a possible reaso for the problems
13. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #13 19th April 2009, 14:55

    will do. cheers buddy. ill get replace the lambda too. not too heavy on the pocket
14. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #14 19th April 2009, 14:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve87 will do. cheers buddy. ill get replace the lambda too. not too heavy on the pocket

    Lambda should 100% come up on diagnostic i think, it either works all the time, or it doesn't
15. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #15 19th April 2009, 14:58

    well ill just replace that and then if dont sort it ill take to mechanic
16. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #16 19th April 2009, 15:01

    Lambda is more idle issues than hesitation from what i have read
17. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #17 19th April 2009, 15:02

    hmm. idle certainly is not the problem. it is however getting worse
18. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #18 19th April 2009, 15:13

    not all the time, i had a diagnosis check on mine it does not always thown it up, good old citroen electrics,
    
    but worth getting a diagnosis check, it not tht much, can get it done for about 20 quid.
19. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #19 19th April 2009, 15:18

    20 quid aint gunna hurt. worth seeing if it comes up with anything else. spluttering has to be sorted out tho, cant be doing anything much good
20. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #20 19th April 2009, 15:20

    well i can get done for 20 quid, but just have to go around the garages to see what there prices are.
    
    always good way to start as you could spend more just changing sensors.
    
    thanks
    
    andy
21. user_26394 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2008 Bedworth Posts: 10221 106 gti

    #21 19th April 2009, 15:21

    If you do need to start playing sensor roulette it's a crap game to play
    
    Is it ALWAYS doin it, or onyl when warm etc?
22. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #22 19th April 2009, 15:22

    yup, thats the annoying thing wit motors, i was ALWAYS forking out for my pug diesel. things just always went wrong
23. user_10176 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2006 Ramsey st marys, peterborough Posts: 8288 Saxo's, Corsa (Daily)

    #23 19th April 2009, 15:26

    well before you play sensor roulette lol, you need to get a daignosis check will narrow it down if not anything else.
    
    then it will not cost you on sensors which might be ok.
24. Steve87 L-plater Joined: Apr 2009 Chelmsford Posts: 74 '98 VTS

    #24 19th April 2009, 15:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bickerton If you do need to start playing sensor roulette it's a crap game to play Is it ALWAYS doin it, or onyl when warm etc?

    its doing it in the first couple of thousend revs, then when it warms up its later on in the revs
25. djdanman Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2008 dunstable Posts: 111 Saxo vtr phase 1 in white

    #25 20th April 2009, 00:19

    My VTR was doing the exact same thing a couple of weeks ago i replaced the map sensor and coolant temp sensor and it runs spot on, if its anything like wot mine was like its most certainly either the crankshaft sensor map sensor or cts sensor,
    try just disconnecting the crankshaft sensor plug and spray with some contact cleaner and reconnect it, might just have a dry joint in the connection or dirt ingress this is quite common as the sensor is located at the front of the engine..