VTR vs WestCoast

1. FirstCar Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 4

   #1 22nd April 2009, 11:04

   Could anyone some me the spec's of these cars (Standard) so I can view the difference?
   
   Cheers
2. gixxa Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 manchester Posts: 1704 vtr turbo

   #2 22nd April 2009, 11:12

   google parkers, all the info is on there
3. johnlambert Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Dublin Posts: 4359 Honda S2000

   #3 22nd April 2009, 11:15

   westcoast 1.4 8v 75 bhp
   
   vtr 1.6 8v 90 or 98bhp
4. FirstCar Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 4

   #4 22nd April 2009, 11:17

   Thanks
5. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #5 22nd April 2009, 13:36

   both get more or less the same mpg aswel.
6. Paulp Super Moderator Joined: Aug 2007 Lancashire Posts: 14256 Astra VXR + 1989 Astra GTE

   #6 22nd April 2009, 13:39

   Westcoast insurance group 4 or maybe 5?
   VTR insurance group 7
7. Mrk1 Established Member Joined: Jun 2006 Bristol Posts: 1358 Mk2 VTS

   #7 22nd April 2009, 13:40

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Paul Westcoast insurance group 4 or maybe 5? VTR insurance group 7

   I'm pretty sure the Westy is Group 5
8. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #8 22nd April 2009, 15:23

   when i was getting quotes on westies and vtr's there was only litterally a couple of quid difference.
9. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

   #9 22nd April 2009, 15:59

   VTR MK1 - 90bhp 8v - Insurance group 7
   VTR MK2 - 98bhp 8V - Insurance group 7
   
   Westcoast - 1.4 8V insurance group 5
   
   Hope this helps
10. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #10 22nd April 2009, 16:05

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 VTR MK1 - 90bhp 8v - Insurance group 7 VTR MK2 - 98bhp 8V - Insurance group 7 Westcoast - 1.4 8V insurance group 5 Hope this helps

    where did the extra 8bhp come from???
11. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #11 22nd April 2009, 16:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar where did the extra 8bhp come from???

    Search mate, it gets asked an awful lot.
    
    
12. Timlowthian Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Cowes, Isle of Wight Posts: 600 Saxo Vtr MK2, Bodied 106 xsi

    #12 22nd April 2009, 16:08

    The later mk2 vtr's with the 3 plug engine where 98bhp but the mk1 and early mk2 vtr's with the single plug engine were 90bhp!
13. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #13 22nd April 2009, 16:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Timlowthian The later mk2 vtr's with the 3 plug engine where 98bhp but the mk1 and early mk2 vtr's with the single plug engine were 90bhp!

    The early MK2s where the facelift models, i have one, its W reg
14. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

    #14 22nd April 2009, 16:14

    is the westcoast engine same spec as a furio engine?
    i know its the same size/valves.
    but was wondering if its the same bhp/o-60.
    might be selling my vtr and getting a furio, so would like to know
15. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #15 22nd April 2009, 16:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jware92 is the westcoast engine same spec as a furio engine? i know its the same size/valves. but was wondering if its the same bhp/o-60. might be selling my vtr and getting a furio, so would like to know

    Yeah there the same engines.
16. jware92 Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Colwyn Bay/Southend Posts: 608 Mk2 vts VXR engined astra

    #16 22nd April 2009, 16:19

    not much difference in insurance apparently,
    might just keep the vtr then
17. mattyjones Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2008 Loughborugh Posts: 505

    #17 22nd April 2009, 16:20

    if your looking to buy one get a vtr you will regret it otherwise
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 22nd April 2009, 16:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jware92 not much difference in insurance apparently, might just keep the vtr then

    would never sell a vtr for a furio or westy. lol
19. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #19 22nd April 2009, 16:25

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 The early MK2s where the facelift models, i have one, its W reg

    mines a V reg, how many horses was it blest with?, my 1.4 16v corsa has a standard 89bhp, and my saxo feels a lot more alive????
20. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #20 22nd April 2009, 16:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar mines a V reg, how many horses was it blest with?, my 1.4 16v corsa has a standard 89bhp, and my saxo feels a lot more alive????

    more than likely be a 90bhp.
    
    corsa's are shit.
21. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #21 22nd April 2009, 16:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar mines a V reg, how many horses was it blest with?, my 1.4 16v corsa has a standard 89bhp, and my saxo feels a lot more alive????

    I am not sure, is the rocker cover silver, with the cat under the car?
    
    If so then its 90bhp i am afraid.
22. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #22 22nd April 2009, 16:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 I am not sure, is the rocker cover silver, with the cat under the car? If so then its 90bhp i am afraid.

    yes the rocker cover is grey/silver, never mind
23. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #23 22nd April 2009, 16:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar yes the rocker cover is grey/silver, never mind

    I thought mine was 98bhp at the time of buying it, the whole facelift thing confused me lol
    
    was gutted when i found out it ws only 90bhp
24. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #24 22nd April 2009, 16:36

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 I thought mine was 98bhp at the time of buying it, the whole facelift thing confused me lol was gutted when i found out it ws only 90bhp

    its a pain, i bought an induction kit yesterday but took me a good hour to find the right one as there is 3 different vtr's?????
25. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #25 22nd April 2009, 16:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar its a pain, i bought an induction kit yesterday but took me a good hour to find the right one as there is 3 different vtr's?????

    black top, silver 90bhp, silver 98bhp
26. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #26 22nd April 2009, 16:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar its a pain, i bought an induction kit yesterday but took me a good hour to find the right one as there is 3 different vtr's?????

    There is only 2 VTRs, MK1 and MK2
    
    Black top engine and Silver top engine
27. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #27 22nd April 2009, 16:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 There is only 2 VTRs, MK1 and MK2 Black top engine and Silver top engine

    i meant as in, there;s a mk1 mk2 and a mark 2 with changes ie 8 bhp,
28. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #28 22nd April 2009, 16:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar i meant as in, there;s a mk1 mk2 and a mark 2 with changes ie 8 bhp,

    oww i get you know, the Facelift
29. Timlowthian Frequent Poster Joined: Oct 2007 Cowes, Isle of Wight Posts: 600 Saxo Vtr MK2, Bodied 106 xsi

    #29 22nd April 2009, 17:07

    I had a westy before my vtr and i only had that for a whole month i just wanted a vtr a day after i bought the westy so if ur considering the westy now id go straight for the vtr now!
30. steev911 Newbie Joined: Jul 2008 Newcastle Posts: 29 Citroen Saxo VTR Phase 2

    #30 23rd April 2009, 00:39

    Think youll find theres actually 4 different vtr's
    
    MK1 - Black Top (?Bhp?)
    MK1 - Facelift (Different Grill) - Silver Top (90BHP)
    
    MK2 - Silver Top (Early Models 2000-2001) (90Bhp)
    MK2 - Grey Top (98Bhp)
    
    And on the corsa front, i had a 1.4 16v Sport and it felt like it had absoloutly zero torque in comparison with the VTR, obviously with it only being a 1.4.
    
31. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #31 23rd April 2009, 02:04

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 I thought mine was 98bhp at the time of buying it, the whole facelift thing confused me lol was gutted when i found out it ws only 90bhp

    Why? Get it cammed.
    
    Mine would be cammed if remapping 3-plugs didnt have a bad rep. Plus you have to pay extra for systems like KMS.
    
    I dont even think the 'in fashion' Predator is available in VTR 3 plug guise?
    
    The standard MkI exhausts are bad, change that and you should notice a difference.
32. johnlambert Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2009 Dublin Posts: 4359 Honda S2000

    #32 23rd April 2009, 02:22

    guys i must say,saxos are so cheap in the u.k!!!
    very little here in ireland
33. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #33 23rd April 2009, 09:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TonyA Why? Get it cammed. Mine would be cammed if remapping 3-plugs didnt have a bad rep. Plus you have to pay extra for systems like KMS. I dont even think the 'in fashion' Predator is available in VTR 3 plug guise? The standard MkI exhausts are bad, change that and you should notice a difference.

    correct its only available for single plug.
34. FirstCar Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 4

    #34 23rd April 2009, 09:33

    Well cheers for all the replys
    
    I think after reading this im going to try pick up a VTR.
    Is there much price difference in a MK1 or MK2?
35. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

    #35 23rd April 2009, 12:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by FirstCar Well cheers for all the replys I think after reading this im going to try pick up a VTR. Is there much price difference in a MK1 or MK2?

    There obviously will be, as the older the car, generally the cheaper it will be (although not always).
    
    You can pick up a MK1 VTR for anything between £700-£1300 depending on condition, mileage, year etc.
    
    You will struggle to get a decent condition Mark 2 for that most go for anything between £1500-£2500, so in effect, Yes.
36. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #36 23rd April 2009, 13:20

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TonyA Why? Get it cammed. Mine would be cammed if remapping 3-plugs didnt have a bad rep. Plus you have to pay extra for systems like KMS. I dont even think the 'in fashion' Predator is available in VTR 3 plug guise? The standard MkI exhausts are bad, change that and you should notice a difference.

    My exhaust is dne mate
    
    Is mine a 3-plug? Why do they have a bad reputation for remaps?
37. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #37 24th April 2009, 13:28

    Some of the VTSs havent responded well afaik. Plus like I say it is more expensive a lot of the time.