Which brakes to get?

1. Wayne Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2007 Powys Posts: 15348 Icelandtic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS 53 Turbo

   #1 25th April 2009, 21:46

   Hey guys i need new brake discs, perfect time to upgrade size which ones GTi6 brakes 283mm which discs to get, i'll get mintex pads or shall i go 4pots i want to use it more on track
2. PORKYSBITZ Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2009 SURREY Posts: 295 mk1 vts in fiat orange

   #2 26th April 2009, 21:04

   To be honest you dnt need 4 pots with the sort of power your running
   gti-6 brakes all the way
3. VTR_Craig Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2007 Lincoln/Newark Posts: 2673 Mercedes C220, Scooby, Saxo VTS

   #3 26th April 2009, 21:11

   Don't forget braided lines and brake fluid.
   
   Lot of people use the 266mm upgrade on track and say its fine.
   
   I personally would do the 266mm upgrade with some decent fast road discs and pads such as mintex or ferodo (sp) or ebc yellowstuff
   
   obviously the 4 pots would be better but i was speaking to a lad that said he could easily lock a wheel at 100mph
4. adamsax Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2005 W.Yorks/W.Sussex Posts: 3982 MK1 VTS

   #4 26th April 2009, 22:41

   I've got 283's.
   
   They need everything uprating to really feel them though....such as M/C and lines.
   
   Even so, them and the 266's are an awesome upgrade from being bolted on

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5. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #5 27th April 2009, 08:42

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by VTR_Craig Don't forget braided lines and brake fluid. Lot of people use the 266mm upgrade on track and say its fine. I personally would do the 266mm upgrade with some decent fast road discs and pads such as mintex or ferodo (sp) or ebc yellowstuff

   I'd echo these comments, ive gone down the 266mm route.
6. Predator_R32p Super Moderator Joined: Mar 2003 Durham (England) Posts: 37932 1. AX 2. Mk2 Saxo VTR 3. MK4 R32 DBP

   #6 27th April 2009, 10:12

   4 pots are awesome, i loves mine and tbh i never want to track my car, bought them purely for safety, cant beat having good brakes
   
   see if you can have a try or go out with someone who has the gti ones and thn someone with 4 pots

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7. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #7 27th April 2009, 10:15

   my 266's rock.
   
   fit them, sort the brake pedal travel... sorted.
   
   best bit is replacing discs and pads is much cheaper compared to 283's. and they aren't so heavy either.

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8. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

   #8 27th April 2009, 12:06

   266's i have on mine doesn't feel out of place at all but so much better braking!
9. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #9 27th April 2009, 12:14

   my 283s discs are massively heavy so prolly not the best idea on a normalish power car
   aswell as the fact on a light car all your doing with bigger brakes is unweighting the rear wheels and then you need to look into bias valves ect to stop them locking up with no weight on
   
   its a right arse ache lol
10. Hpi_matrix Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Hertford/Derby Posts: 1272 MG BGT, AX Gti

    #10 29th April 2009, 12:46

    Can someone link to the a good disc/pad set-up with 266mm
    
    Would the ATE discs for ecp do? Or would I have to spend a bit more and get something like these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PEUGEOT-306-2-...1%7C240%3A1318
11. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #11 29th April 2009, 13:08

    depends on the pad you are running as to whether the ATE disks are up to the job.
    What are you wanting to run, standard or fast road?
    
    Kev
12. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #12 29th April 2009, 13:30

    4pots on 266mm discs ftw, light weight and good braking.
13. evans1089 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Chesterfield Posts: 8935 Ibiza Cupra 204bhp

    #13 29th April 2009, 14:45

    wouldnt use mintex pads for track either, unless they m1144's..
14. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #14 29th April 2009, 14:59

    i'd personally use 1155's for track work. 1144's are a fast road pad and can cook if you are harsh on the brakes.
    
    Kev
15. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #15 29th April 2009, 15:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by evans1089 wouldnt use mintex pads for track either, unless they m1144's..

    yep the OE ones were a bit crap to honest.
16. Hpi_matrix Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Hertford/Derby Posts: 1272 MG BGT, AX Gti

    #16 29th April 2009, 17:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing depends on the pad you are running as to whether the ATE disks are up to the job. What are you wanting to run, standard or fast road? Kev

    Thinking of upgrading to 266mm, but tbh the 247mm seem fine. Fast road use, but wouldnt mind staying standard if im going to pay £100+ for discs or something.
17. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #17 29th April 2009, 17:53

    well a set of mintex on standard size brakes will be better than standard. i like the carbone lorraine RC5 for road use too, but these squeal more when cold and lightly pressed against the disk, though the advantage of pads that do not compress under pressure is worth it.
18. Hpi_matrix Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Hertford/Derby Posts: 1272 MG BGT, AX Gti

    #18 29th April 2009, 18:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing well a set of mintex on standard size brakes will be better than standard. i like the carbone lorraine RC5 for road use too, but these squeal more when cold and lightly pressed against the disk, though the advantage of pads that do not compress under pressure is worth it.

    The mintex pads seem much more within the money id want to spend, what discs would you recommend to go with them? (when are you getting the brembo's back in stock?)
    
    I can get some 266mm callipers pretty cheap, is there a pad you can recommend for them that are similar to the Mintex pads?
19. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

    #19 29th April 2009, 18:30

    Brembo disks from gsf work fine for me on 306 s16 and ive not warpd them yet and im useing the braided lines i supply and pagid rs4-2 blue pads
    these are by far the best fast road and mild track use pad (lots) of money can buy.
    If going for carbon lorraine hang fire a few monthes until the fast road/odd track pad comes out.
20. Hpi_matrix Established Member Joined: Feb 2009 Hertford/Derby Posts: 1272 MG BGT, AX Gti

    #20 30th April 2009, 00:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Hpi_matrix The mintex pads seem much more within the money id want to spend, what discs would you recommend to go with them? (when are you getting the brembo's back in stock?) I can get some 266mm callipers pretty cheap, is there a pad you can recommend for them that are similar to the Mintex pads?

    Just realised Kam racing do bits for the 206 and 306
    
    The Mintex pads for 266mm callipers are nearly double the price! (surprising as I wouldnt have thought they use double the material!)
    
    Seems like its better to stick with the stock callipers, unless 266mm brakes are better full stop even with OEM equipment?
    
    Also whats the deal with braided lines, im pretty sure my standard lines arent bulging under heaving breaking! So are they just a waste of money for something shiny?
21. Lodger L-plater Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 40

    #21 30th April 2009, 19:26

    i've got gti's on my vts with mintex race discs and m1144 fast road pads, whole set up cost me around 300 for all new seals sand blasted painted fitted and parts. Four pots though would be better if your tking the car on track days as you wont get too much brake fade with all the constant breaking. Set you back a little more though