brake setups confusing me! help

1. Psycho18 Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 west Mids Posts: 1775 Mk1 White VTS

   #1 27th April 2009, 18:49

   Right i have a mk1 vtr with standard brakes/pads. Tbh they are pretty shit because every car i get into i end up braking to early for a corner because i'm so used to my crappy saxo brakes. I want to upgrade them so they are much better but don't want to go silly on price and these 4pot wilwoods everyone goes on about. I have 15" vts alloys on the car and i've noticed the mention of pug 206 266mm brakes on other threads. So my point is what is the best setup for the best price. What will i need better pads etc. thanks
2. Phsyco_Paff Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 South East Posts: 2015 Phase 2 vts

   #2 27th April 2009, 19:09

   just get yourselth some grooved and drilled disks much better than the orignals grooves are there so the water runs off them and also the drilled holes keeps ur disks cool for better braking
   
   also some green stuff pads thease pads are entry level track pads but also exellent for road use give it a try i did on my vts and it stops like a dime
   
   bad point green stuff pads took me 200+ miles till they bedded in

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3. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

   #3 27th April 2009, 19:47

   right if you are on a budget then there are still plenty of options for making improvements.
   
   Ideally you'd change the disks to some uprated ones but a decent set of pads will often do the trick. Look at the Mintex M1144 range.
   
   Change your brake fluid.. I change mine every 12 months to keep the performance up.
   
   Look and some braided brake lines
   
   One thing you don't need these days are drilled disks. They were introduced to vent gasses from the pads. The downside being that the disk will start to crack (even porsche cast disks suffered the same) With advances in pad compounds they don't produce the same gases
4. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #4 27th April 2009, 20:01

   First step is avoid greenstuff pads!
   Best place for them is on the shelf!
   As said also avoid drilled disks!
   Grooved are good but the grooves aint there to disperse water!
   They are there to clear the brakeing gases from the disk and also aid in keeping the disc cool.
   Braided brake lines will help reduce brakeing effort exerted and improve pedal feel (i can supply these at very good prices either as full or part sets with any color covers!)
   brake fluid is hydroscopic and absorbs moisture, as such it should be changed at the very most every three years.
   Pads as said avoid ebc they are worse than standerd!
   Mintex are good, ferodo are good
   pagid rs4-2 blue are the best pads on the market to use for fast road or odd track day.
5. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

   #5 27th April 2009, 20:03

   You can pick up a set of 206 266mm calipers for around £30-£50, some braided hoses for £50, the Maxtorque discs from KAM are a bargain, £70 for front and back, then some new pads all round, the stock mintex pads are pretty good and come in at a good price, or go for some Mintex 1144's all round at a premium. Then upgrade the master cylinder to a 23mm one (£20)
   
   All the above will cost in the region of £250 if you go for OE pads with some half decent fluid and the difference in braking will be quite noticable.
   
   Oh and avoid Green stuff pads
6. PORKYSBITZ Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2009 SURREY Posts: 295 mk1 vts in fiat orange

   #6 27th April 2009, 20:22

   406 coupe brakes ftw brembo power