Which centre section?

1. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #1 28th April 2009, 12:04

   Not sure what centre section to get. I want one that will get rid of my mid silencer, and will replace the satndard pipe in between the manifold and backbox.
   
   Its for a Mk2 VTR, with a standard manifold with the cat in it, and a piper backbox.
   
   i was thinking of the supersprint race tube, but i want to keep the deep noise my piper backbox gives.
   what other brands make good centre sections without mid silencers in?
   
   also with the cat still on how much noisier will getting rid of the silencer make it?
2. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

   #2 28th April 2009, 12:06

   interested too, as im fitting my race system at the weekend with a standard mani
3. mattzsaxvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 sheffield Posts: 510 mk2 vtr

   #3 28th April 2009, 12:27

   i had my stainless fitted and i said about the mid silencer taken out and he said the put it back on in stainless ? why
4. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

   #4 28th April 2009, 12:53

   iv got piper 3" and supersprint race tube on mine its pretty loud and still nice and deep man.
   
   ill get a vid when my new arrives if you want?
5. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #5 28th April 2009, 12:57

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxotim iv got piper 3" and supersprint race tube on mine its pretty loud and still nice and deep man. ill get a vid when my new arrives if you want?

   same as me
   mines rather loud
   but i have a piper 4-1 manifold too
   
   mines the dark blue car (2nd one being chased by thr tomcat lol)
   
6. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #6 28th April 2009, 13:06

   is there a stainless version of the super sprint centre pipe at all?
7. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #7 28th April 2009, 13:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by gouldy87 is there a stainless version of the super sprint centre pipe at all?

   not that ive seen
   there are some stainless straighthroughs but they tend to be mutli piece systems
8. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #8 28th April 2009, 13:09

   i cant be arsed with that then. i might just get the box cut out of mine
9. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

   #9 28th April 2009, 15:00

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Saxotim iv got piper 3" and supersprint race tube on mine its pretty loud and still nice and deep man. ill get a vid when my new arrives if you want?

   yeah that would be wicked mate.
   
   mine would be the same as yours then, standard manifold, supersprint race tube, and 3" piper backbox.
   
   get a video up asap mate.
   just like an idling one from the side of the car. wanna hear what its like from around the car not just at the back by the backbox thanks
10. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #10 28th April 2009, 15:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 i cant be arsed with that then. i might just get the box cut out of mine

    the main reason the supersprint is good is it manufactuered very well
    has no crushing in the bends and has a pretty gppd coating on to protect from rust
    ive had mine wrapped for over a year and its still fine
11. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #11 28th April 2009, 15:39

    i had a super sprint on mine. it sounded very strange with a jan speed mani. like a tormented wasp lol. so i binned it off but i have a different manifold now so it should sound good
12. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #12 28th April 2009, 15:43

    Anyone got anymore sound clips / Video of these?
13. Lozza_vtr Established Member Joined: Jun 2007 Sunny Essex!! Posts: 2342 VW Golf Mk4 1.8T

    #13 28th April 2009, 16:15

    I will try and get a vid up at some point. I have got standard mani, supersprint centre and piper backbox.

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14. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #14 28th April 2009, 17:06

    that would be good lozza if you could
15. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #15 28th April 2009, 19:43

    got my new cam today nick i can get you a vid after my dinner.
16. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #16 28th April 2009, 19:53

    wicked mate. can you just get a general one of what it sounds like when idling from all angles of the car. just walk around the car with it idling maybe leave the cam on a tripod and film you driving off so i can hear what it sounds like. not necesarily ragging it, just gently drive off
    thanks
17. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #17 28th April 2009, 19:54

    the supersprint is aluminised steel which will not rust like cheap steel systems.
    They are also painted to offer another protective layer against the elements.
    
    Cared for they will outlast your interest in the car
18. AlexGreen Regular Poster Joined: Nov 2008 Warlingham, Surrey Posts: 471 2001 Posi Blue VTR

    #18 28th April 2009, 21:34

    I have a centre section from a mk2 1.1 or 1.4 saxo. Cost me £27.99 brand new but you can get them for under £20 at eurocar parts
    
    Its bassically just a straight through pipe from the moanifold/ downpipe to the backbox.
    
    I had it with my supersprint backbox for a while and it was louder than standard and not raspy atall. Got a decat now though so lots of rasp.
19. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #19 28th April 2009, 21:43

    im also interested in this. Getting my supersprint race centre fitted on thursday to my magnex backbox.
20. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #20 28th April 2009, 22:33

    just uploading the vids now

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21. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #21 28th April 2009, 22:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andymiller_VTR im also interested in this. Getting my supersprint race centre fitted on thursday to my magnex backbox.

    mine sounded like an angry wasp on my vts with the same set up
22. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #22 28th April 2009, 22:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Saxotim just uploading the vids now

    im excited lol
23. Hopey121 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Sunderland Posts: 508 Audi A4 B5 1.9 TDI SE

    #23 28th April 2009, 22:45

    mines got a standard manifold on a mk1 vtr silvertop engine, with a decat and a custom made stinaless steal exhaust center section and a janspeed back box, but im unhappy with it as it ratles inside the box dunno if it ment to do this but it dont sound to good need to get it sorted what do poepl think it is that is casueing it ?
    
    
24. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #24 28th April 2009, 22:47

    put one up of you giving it some beans lol
25. Hopey121 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Sunderland Posts: 508 Audi A4 B5 1.9 TDI SE

    #25 28th April 2009, 22:48

    lol i will tkae one tommoro, it seems to be ratling inside the back box rite at the back
    
    Especialy when i put my foot down then after a couple of seconds it goes away
26. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #26 28th April 2009, 22:49

    whats your set up again mate stand mani supersprint race tube and piper backbox ?
27. Saxotim Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2007 Leeds Posts: 2865 172 Cup, Mk2 VTR

    #27 28th April 2009, 23:20

    VIDS:
    standard mani with cat, supersprint race pipe, piper 3" backbox
    
    outside vid
    
    
    inside vid
    
    
    
    EDIT: ignore the splashes, its pretty wet outside

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28. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #28 28th April 2009, 23:25

    sounds good cant wait till thursday now
    
    i like the idle thing you have going on. mine used to do that. gets annoying
29. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #29 28th April 2009, 23:25

    cheers for them mate. its really hard to tell what it sounds like from videos. hmm i may wait till French car show and try listen to someones car with a supersprint centre section in person. thanks again for going to the effort of doing the vids. need to think about whether to get a centre section or not
30. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #30 28th April 2009, 23:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 cheers for them mate. its really hard to tell what it sounds like from videos. hmm i may wait till French car show and try listen to someones car with a supersprint centre section in person. thanks again for going to the effort of doing the vids. need to think about whether to get a centre section or not

    ill post of video on this on thursday of mine when i get it done so you can compare the videos if that helps ?
31. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #31 28th April 2009, 23:30

    Mine with a Citroen straight through. Cost £14 on trade but people are saying they cost like £50 now. Very raspy espec. when hot. This is with a std mani though with a 1.4 lump. Should have vids of it with a 16v lump and a heatwrapped 4-1 by the end of the week
    
    
    
    
32. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #32 28th April 2009, 23:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ben_Saxo Mine with a Citroen straight through. Cost £14 on trade but people are saying they cost like £50 now. Very raspy espec. when hot. This is with a std mani though with a 1.4 lump. Should have vids of it with a 16v lump and a heatwrapped 4-1 by the end of the week

    what make of backbox?
    so is it manifold with cat, then citroen centre pipe with no silencer, then backbox?
33. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #33 28th April 2009, 23:36

    Sportex. Very good backbox, just have a chavvy name and image as theyre sold on ebay. Was a catless mani mate. And yeah the centre is just a straight through pipe
34. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #34 28th April 2009, 23:39

    aah right. so its decatted and just a straight through to the backbox. sounds good
35. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #35 29th April 2009, 00:15

    my sportex is deep not raspy, not sure how much of that is the bckbox though. its also cheapish and seemed pretty good quality for the price too, better than the standard item
36. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #36 29th April 2009, 09:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM my sportex is deep not raspy, not sure how much of that is the bckbox though. its also cheapish and seemed pretty good quality for the price too, better than the standard item

    do you mean a sportex centre section?
    
    what backbox do you have?
37. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #37 29th April 2009, 10:50

    is the silencer less centre pipe from citroen 2 inch nominal bore?
38. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #38 29th April 2009, 10:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 is the silencer less centre pipe from citroen 2 inch nominal bore?

    not quite its arund 1 3/4-1 7/8 ish iirc
    
    plud the bends are normally a bit crushed and generally badly made
39. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #39 29th April 2009, 11:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB not quite its arund 1 3/4-1 7/8 ish iirc plud the bends are normally a bit crushed and generally badly made

    bin that one off then.
    
    alex you seem to know your stuff. if i remove the centre section of baffles from my magnex will i notice any performance decrease?
    
    i ask because apparantly baffles effect back pressure which effects torque?
    
    i want the centre silencer removing from my car as it whacks on the floor all the time but i dont want it out if it bogs the car down etc.
40. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #40 29th April 2009, 11:17

    I think the silencer restricts gas flow therefore decreasing performance... I THINK
41. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #41 29th April 2009, 11:30

    the baffles will be restrictin a bit but tbh there minimal
    
    the centre box will slow the gas flow not nessecerily effect pressures i think
    its about how fast the gasses flow from what i understand
    the pressure will effect it but it varies from car to car
    
    tbh a lot of exhaust modifiation is hit and miss
    i did a bit of research before i got my stuff and tbh i dont think im far wrong for my motor
    
    its down to the particular car and what you feel is best

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42. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #42 29th April 2009, 11:32

    I also thinks its better to use complete system rather than mix and match brands... but thats just my opinion.
43. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #43 29th April 2009, 11:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus I also thinks its better to use complete system rather than mix and match brands... but thats just my opinion.

    ive got a mix and match
    as long as the parts compliment each other its not really a bad idea
44. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #44 29th April 2009, 11:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB the baffles will be restrictin a bit but tbh there minimal the centre box will slow the gas flow not nessecerily effect pressures i think its about how fast the gasses flow from what i understand the pressure will effect it but it varies from car to car tbh a lot of exhaust modifiation is hit and miss i did a bit of research before i got my stuff and tbh i dont think im far wrong for my motor its down to the particular car and what you feel is best

    it seemed to feel like it bogged down the last time i took the centre section out. but now the centre pipe is smashed to bits from speed bumps etc so its probs slowing it down tbh
45. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #45 29th April 2009, 11:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 it seemed to feel like it bogged down the last time i took the centre section out. but now the centre pipe is smashed to bits from speed bumps etc so its probs slowing it down tbh

    tbh id be tempted to try a straight through on there
    the standard citroen being a tad smaller may be a good thing as it will give a faster flow rate die to being smaller that little bit from what i understand
    only issue is the bends arent the best
    but personally i like the supersprint centre im running
    i not saying its the best you can get but it certainly does the job very well
46. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #46 29th April 2009, 11:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB not quite its arund 1 3/4-1 7/8 ish iirc plud the bends are normally a bit crushed and generally badly made

    Yeah im replacing it with a stainless one soon
47. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #47 29th April 2009, 11:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB tbh id be tempted to try a straight through on there the standard citroen being a tad smaller may be a good thing as it will give a faster flow rate die to being smaller that little bit from what i understand only issue is the bends arent the best but personally i like the supersprint centre im running i not saying its the best you can get but it certainly does the job very well

    thats what i had before and im considering doing it again tbh. im getting sick of scraping on speed bumps
    
    thanks alex
48. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #48 29th April 2009, 11:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 thats what i had before and im considering doing it again tbh. im getting sick of scraping on speed bumps thanks alex

    if it felt like it was bogging it may be down to the backbox if a straight though feels worse
49. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #49 29th April 2009, 11:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB if it felt like it was bogging it may be down to the backbox if a straight though feels worse

    its a magnex back box thats 10 month old. its the centre baffle section that scrapes on the floor. i think its seen better days tbh
50. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #50 29th April 2009, 11:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 its a magnex back box thats 10 month old. its the centre baffle section that scrapes on the floor. i think its seen better days tbh

    magnex is quite a large box and iirc has an offset entry to the feed so will cause a restriction as the gas isnt flowing straight
51. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #51 29th April 2009, 11:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB magnex is quite a large box and iirc has an offset entry to the feed so will cause a restriction as the gas isnt flowing straight

    hmm interesting. the first bad thing ive heard about magnex. what back box would be an inprovement on this do you reckon?
52. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #52 29th April 2009, 11:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 hmm interesting. the first bad thing ive heard about magnex. what back box would be an inprovement on this do you reckon?

    ive seen quite a few bad thngs said about magnex
    look for something along the same design as a piper or supersprint where the box goes along the line of the exhaust
53. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #53 29th April 2009, 11:56

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB ive seen quite a few bad thngs said about magnex look for something along the same design as a piper or supersprint where the box goes along the line of the exhaust

    another question for you sorry, where can i get a piper 3.5 inch back box from? ive looked on kam but they dont sell them as far as im aware?
54. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #54 29th April 2009, 12:02

    i wouldnt go to a 3.5
    i run a 3" and i feel its a tad large for the job
    
    its also rather fucking loud

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55. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #55 29th April 2009, 12:06

    3 inch piper like the one off kam then? i think ze magnex will be going shortly then
56. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #56 29th April 2009, 12:08

    many people bang on about back pressures etc... yet ignore pulse tuning
57. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #57 29th April 2009, 12:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 3 inch piper like the one off kam then? i think ze magnex will be going shortly then

    yea ive got the outward rolled mild steel one
    the roll doesnt effect much tbh but i think it looks cool lol
    
    im tempted to go down in size though maybe try to find a 2.5"
58. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #58 29th April 2009, 12:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan many people bang on about back pressures etc... yet ignore pulse tuning

    pulse tuning, is that to do with back pressure and it being produced in waves of some sort?
59. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #59 29th April 2009, 12:11

    pulse tuning is the waves the air moves in
    tbh i dont fully understand that one so ill let ryan explain lol
    
    ive read a few tings posted by mr sayer on the subject
60. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #60 29th April 2009, 12:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB pulse tuning is the waves the air moves in tbh i dont fully understand that one so ill let ryan explain lol ive read a few tings posted by mr sayer on the subject

    i read it was to do with the exhaust gasses being produced in waves but im not 100% on it tbh
61. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #61 29th April 2009, 12:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 pulse tuning, is that to do with back pressure and it being produced in waves of some sort?

    have a wee read http://www.sideways-technologies.co....?m-1201221799/

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62. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

    #62 29th April 2009, 12:27

    that was a good read actually. after reading that im going to make a guess that my magnex cat back is too restrictive due to there being so many baffles and to do with thw negative pressure being in the exhaust at the wrong time?
63. Dale_H_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Oxfordshire Posts: 130 Saxo vtr mk2 2003

    #63 29th April 2009, 14:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 cheers for them mate. its really hard to tell what it sounds like from videos. hmm i may wait till French car show and try listen to someones car with a supersprint centre section in person. thanks again for going to the effort of doing the vids. need to think about whether to get a centre section or not

    ive got a super sprint race pipe and piper 3" back box with standard mani (cat) and i cant fault it tbf!!! think it sounds reli gd nice deep tone!! ill be at french car show if you want to have a listen see what you think
64. athertonkvtr Newbie Joined: Mar 2009 Consett Posts: 2 saxo vtr

    #64 29th April 2009, 16:24

    does anyone know a website where i can get a centre pipe with no silencer cheap?
65. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #65 29th April 2009, 16:25

    Kam racing dude
66. NICK2506 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2008 Surrey Posts: 6424 Black '03 Mk2 VTS

    #66 29th April 2009, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gouldy87 3 inch piper like the one off kam then? i think ze magnex will be going shortly then

    i have a piper 3" backbox. sounds wicked and they look good aswell. i got mine from speedbox.co.uk
    They were much cheaper than any where else on the internet
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Dale_H_vtr ive got a super sprint race pipe and piper 3" back box with standard mani (cat) and i cant fault it tbf!!! think it sounds reli gd nice deep tone!! ill be at french car show if you want to have a listen see what you think

    yeah hopefully i'll be there as well. but ive seen a supersprint centre section up for sale and its not far from me. may just buy it. if it sounds crap i can sell it on.
67. Hopey121 Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Sunderland Posts: 508 Audi A4 B5 1.9 TDI SE

    #67 29th April 2009, 22:15

    hi people i took another video of mine am sure it sounds wrong lol it ratles like hell when i rev it and it is comeing form inside the back box.
    
    i have a mk1 vtr silvertop engine, standard manifold-decat-strait throuhg custom made stianless steal center section-janspeed back box
    
    
68. Dale_H_vtr Infrequent Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Oxfordshire Posts: 130 Saxo vtr mk2 2003

    #68 30th April 2009, 12:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by NICK2506 i have a piper 3" backbox. sounds wicked and they look good aswell. i got mine from speedbox.co.uk They were much cheaper than any where else on the internet yeah hopefully i'll be there as well. but ive seen a supersprint centre section up for sale and its not far from me. may just buy it. if it sounds crap i can sell it on.

    
    i would mate im more that happy with mine just gota get a mini now