Urgent Manifold Help

1. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

   #1 29th April 2009, 14:52

   Car exhaust has just snapped where the downpipe joins the centre section, great excuse to get a manifold but which one and where from?
   
   Really needing to order one today so any help is much appreciated
2. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

   #2 29th April 2009, 15:01

   How much you looking to spend matey??
3. kistigun Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP

   #3 29th April 2009, 15:03

   take a look on this site for a nice manifold: www.kamracing.co.uk
   I'm getting mine supersprint 4-2-1 mani next week so i can't give you more advice yet.
4. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

   #4 29th April 2009, 15:08

   Found this one on ebay, any good?
   
   http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Citroen-AX-GTI...3A1|240%3A1318
   
   Looking to spend as little as possible
5. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

   #5 29th April 2009, 15:11

   Look to get a piper manifold mate or a supersprint one. They are a bit more money but will alst you alot longer than the shit ones off ebay.
6. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

   #6 29th April 2009, 15:13

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Sean_VTS Look to get a piper manifold mate or a supersprint one. They are a bit more money but will alst you alot longer than the shit ones off ebay.

   Dont have the money to get a piper or supersprint one
   
   Dont mind if it only does me a year or two
7. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #7 29th April 2009, 15:19

   the one on ebay looks like you'll have problems with the mk2 oil filter setup, if you dont mind changing to a mk1 setup then get a janspeed
8. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

   #8 29th April 2009, 15:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by cj_99 the one on ebay looks like you'll have problems with the mk2 oil filter setup, if you dont mind changing to a mk1 setup then get a janspeed

   They are mega bucks aint they?
   
   How does the one look like it will cause problems?
9. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #9 29th April 2009, 15:26

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Col_VTR They are mega bucks aint they? How does the one look like it will cause problems?

   janspeeds arent that bad tbh have a look on kam.
   
   It just the right hand pipe where the oil filter is on the mk2 seems to come out quite wide so would clash with the filter and housing
   
   ill get pics
   
   edit: If you look here at the mani then at the pic of my engine bay with the oil filter which is black it looks asif they would clash
   
   
   

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10. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #10 29th April 2009, 15:28

    £259 aint bad, wont need the cat though
11. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #11 29th April 2009, 15:29

    Janspeed are mild steel, but will still last a few years if you get the right coating for it
    
    I reccomend either Raceland or if you can stretch then a Supersprint mate.

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12. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #12 29th April 2009, 15:32

    Id go for the raceland aswel if your not looking at spending a great amount, other wise go for the supersprint if you have the spare money
13. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #13 29th April 2009, 15:32

    What about the GMC manifolds?
14. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #14 29th April 2009, 15:34

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimbo06 Id go for the raceland aswel if your not looking at spending a great amount, other wise go for the supersprint if you have the spare money

    They are sold out of the raceland one
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 What about the GMC manifolds?

    GMC?
15. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #15 29th April 2009, 15:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR £259 aint bad, wont need the cat though

    nah not that one bud theres one without a sports cat
16. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #16 29th April 2009, 15:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR GMC?

    there made by gmc motorsport iirc there the same as a piper and there £270 plus vat and postage
17. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #17 29th April 2009, 15:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 nah not that one bud theres one without a sports cat

    Cant see another one cause the only other ones are for the vts or older vtr's
18. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #18 29th April 2009, 15:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR Cant see another one cause the only other ones are for the vts or older vtr's

    yeah thats the one for the older vtr but you'll have to change oil filter setup well i did
19. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #19 29th April 2009, 15:42

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 yeah thats the one for the older vtr but you'll have to change oil filter setup well i did

    Seems like alot of hassle
20. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #20 29th April 2009, 15:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR Seems like alot of hassle

    it is but you can save yourself about £100
21. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #21 29th April 2009, 15:51

    So whats the best one, supersprint the best? Will it fit on standard centre section?
22. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #22 29th April 2009, 15:52

    personally id say the best is piper
23. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #23 29th April 2009, 15:53

    Agreed with piper
24. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #24 29th April 2009, 15:54

    So the 4-1 is better than the 4-2-1?
25. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #25 29th April 2009, 15:58

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR So the 4-1 is better than the 4-2-1?

    4-1 is better higher rev range
    4-2-1 is better low to mid
26. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #26 29th April 2009, 16:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 janspeeds arent that bad tbh have a look on kam. It just the right hand pipe where the oil filter is on the mk2 seems to come out quite wide so would clash with the filter and housing ill get pics edit: If you look here at the mani then at the pic of my engine bay with the oil filter which is black it looks asif they would clash

    You are right, just received response from the seller, what can i get without moving the oil filter that will fit my car that is good?
27. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #27 29th April 2009, 16:13

    If your car is for road use id recommend a 4-2-1 over a 4-1, imo ofcourse
28. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #28 29th April 2009, 16:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimbo06 If your car is for road use id recommend a 4-2-1 over a 4-1, imo ofcourse

    Yeah its only ever going to be for road use
29. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #29 29th April 2009, 16:19

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR Yeah its only ever going to be for road use

    Then you should look at a 4-2-1 design as it helps aid the power delivery in a more useable range for road use

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30. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #30 29th April 2009, 16:34

    What about this one?
    
    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SAXO-VTR-MANIF...3A1|240%3A1318
31. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #31 29th April 2009, 16:38

    Thats a janspeed with the sport cat encorporated. I had a miltek manifold on my vtr with the sport cat (basically the same design as the janspeed) and loved mine, so id say its fine!
32. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #32 29th April 2009, 16:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimbo06 Thats a janspeed with the sport cat encorporated. I had a miltek manifold on my vtr with the sport cat (basically the same design as the janspeed) and loved mine, so id say its fine!

    So where does the cat go?
    
    Is that one a 4-2-1, sorry for all the newbie questions
33. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #33 29th April 2009, 16:43

    For the later MK2 VTR, I'd go for the Piper 4-1 or the Janspeed with sports CAT - both seem to fit really well and offer awesome gains.
34. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #34 29th April 2009, 16:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR So where does the cat go? Is that one a 4-2-1, sorry for all the newbie questions

    The cat is the fat bit where the four pipes go into, technically its a 4-1 but like i said i had one on my vtr a couldnt complain.
35. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #35 29th April 2009, 17:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jimbo06 The cat is the fat bit where the four pipes go into, technically its a 4-1 but like i said i had one on my vtr a couldnt complain.

    Might just get that one then
36. willsy West Midlands Joined: Nov 2005 Nuneaton (West Mids) Posts: 13835 '64 Volvo V40 R’Design, '89 Ph1 309 GTi, ‘97 Mk1 S

    #36 29th April 2009, 17:19

    From the looks of the last few posts im assuming that you've ruled out the Raceland one.
    
    Just incase you are tempted by its cheapness please be aware that as you have a MK2 you WILL have to relocate the oil filter and get the oil pressure sensor changed. This will set you back a further £30 in parts and if you're not confident enough to tap a hole in your block and reconnect a plug you'll have to pay some labour costs too
    
    So Raceland doesnt work out so cheap in the end.
    
    
    For the VTR id fully recommend the supersprint one as by all accounts theyre a straight fit, long lasting and very good value for money really
37. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #37 29th April 2009, 17:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by willsy From the looks of the last few posts im assuming that you've ruled out the Raceland one. Just incase you are tempted by its cheapness please be aware that as you have a MK2 you WILL have to relocate the oil filter and get the oil pressure sensor changed. This will set you back a further £30 in parts and if you're not confident enough to tap a hole in your block and reconnect a plug you'll have to pay some labour costs too So Raceland doesnt work out so cheap in the end. For the VTR id fully recommend the supersprint one as by all accounts theyre a straight fit, long lasting and very good value for money really

    Thought the janspeed one would be a straight fit?
38. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

    #38 29th April 2009, 17:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR Thought the janspeed one would be a straight fit?

    It will be a straight fit mate
39. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #39 29th April 2009, 21:13

    So supersprint is looking like the best option, tempted for a supersprint centre section aswell, is there anything else i need to fit these two parts to my car?
40. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #40 29th April 2009, 22:05

    id get new studs and bolts also mani gasket and a exhaust fitting kit
41. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #41 29th April 2009, 22:15

    col pm gogs mccauley he has my old 4-1 piper thats fits a mk2 with no hassels for sale bout 100 odd i think he wants for it. sounded realy nice on ours was louder than the black vt from our last meet.
    
    edit: link http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=225510.
42. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #42 29th April 2009, 22:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stu-n-shell col pm gogs mccauley he has my old 4-1 piper thats fits a mk2 with no hassels for sale bout 100 odd i think he wants for it. sounded realy nice on ours was louder than the black vt from our last meet. edit: link http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=225510.

    louder than the black vts is that possible haha.
    
    colin get the supersprint mani and centre section you know it makes sense
43. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #43 29th April 2009, 22:30

    yeah and twas only on a 1.1. is was sooo loud it over powerd our scooby at the time. i want the supersprint system aswell but cant justify spending that much money on an exhaust.
44. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #44 29th April 2009, 22:33

    ye it is alot. im getting my supersprint race centre section fitted tomorrow
45. stu-n-shell Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Perth Posts: 4798 posi blue desire vt lookalike

    #45 29th April 2009, 22:37

    check page 10 of the progress thread mate there's a small vid in there of it fitted
46. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #46 29th April 2009, 22:42

    sounds good. colin get it bought
47. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #47 29th April 2009, 22:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stu-n-shell col pm gogs mccauley he has my old 4-1 piper thats fits a mk2 with no hassels for sale bout 100 odd i think he wants for it. sounded realy nice on ours was louder than the black vt from our last meet. edit: link http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=225510.

    I wanted that exhaust and i offerd full asking price but he never replies to my pms or in his for sale add
48. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #48 30th April 2009, 00:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by andymiller_VTR louder than the black vts is that possible haha. colin get the supersprint mani and centre section you know it makes sense

    Think i will be buying it 2moro
    
    Need a few kits for it aswell
    
    If i buy the supersprint centre section, will i just need the gasket and exhaust kits cause it says something about buying another kit if buying the race one but not sure if that applys to the normal centre section
49. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #49 30th April 2009, 10:12

    Any help much appreciated
50. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #50 30th April 2009, 10:44

    yeah you'll need the larger gasket (or just modify your original one) as the supersrint diameter is larger
51. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #51 30th April 2009, 10:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 yeah you'll need the larger gasket (or just modify your original one) as the supersrint diameter is larger

    Even if im getting the supersprint centre section?
52. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #52 30th April 2009, 10:56

    Yeah because the origional diameter of the gasket is to small
    
    Im on about this thing
    
    
53. Col_VTR Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Dunfermline, Scotland Posts: 5091 2001 Grey 1.8t Golf GTI

    #53 30th April 2009, 11:00

    So tell me everything i need, wanting supersprint manifold and centre centre for a 2003 53 plate vtr
54. andymiller_VTR Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 kirkintilloch, Glasgow Posts: 1968 ep82 starlet gt turbo

    #54 30th April 2009, 21:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Col_VTR Think i will be buying it 2moro Need a few kits for it aswell If i buy the supersprint centre section, will i just need the gasket and exhaust kits cause it says something about buying another kit if buying the race one but not sure if that applys to the normal centre section

    do what i did buy the centre section and give it to a garage to do the rest . semtech cut mine a bit so the magnex backbox say right etc.