Saxo 1.1 k&n induction kit fitting help

1. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

   #1 29th April 2009, 18:53

   Hi all,
   
   I,ve had a good look through the forum for an answer and i'm still a little stuck. Hoping you can help.
   
   Im trying to fit the intake but my main problem is the intake pipe doesnt seem to want to fit.
   
   Not sure of the type of engine but it looks as though the filter is going to have to point downwards.
   
   Ive posted a few pics for you to take a look at.
   
   Any help is most appreciated.
   
   Picture 1 - looks like a tight fit the pipe doesnt wanna go in or over where i think its supposed to.
   
   
   
   Picture 2 - The K&N Piping has a hole init where another pipe joins - where does the opposite end of this go? Am i pointing to the correct place?
   
   
   
   Apologies for the absolute dosile questions but this is my brothers new car and nothing like my corolla
2. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

   #2 29th April 2009, 19:05

   one pipe comes direct off of the throttle body, the other small one on the pipe is the oil return pipe. Goes to the rocker cover, or you could put a breather filter/ catch tank on it mate.
3. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

   #3 29th April 2009, 19:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Docsamty one pipe comes direct off of the throttle body, the other small one on the pipe is the oil return pipe. Goes to the rocker cover, or you could put a breather filter/ catch tank on it mate.

   Hi really sorry but aint seen this type of engine before. Isn't the 1st picture showing the pipe over the throttle body? Cos it just wont fit...or atleast fit well
   
   Cheers
4. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

   #4 29th April 2009, 19:11

   what car is it? a 1.1? Imagine this, but replace the BMC CDA with your K&n and the rocker cover is slightly different.
5. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

   #5 29th April 2009, 19:13

   thats a 1.6 16v VTS engine btw, not the 1.1
6. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

   #6 29th April 2009, 19:16

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Docsamty what car is it? a 1.1? Imagine this, but replace the BMC CDA with your K&n and the rocker cover is slightly different.

   aint sure but witht he airbox etc out of the way it looks as though the k&n piping has to point downwards. I've attached an original engine bay picture for you to take a look at - let me know what you think....
   
   Cheers.
   
   
7. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

   #7 29th April 2009, 19:20

   Aaah, Looks like you have the SPI engine as opposed to my MPI one. You sure you've bought the correct kit. Send me the link of where you ordered it (If online), and I'll check it out for you mate.
8. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

   #8 29th April 2009, 19:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Docsamty Aaah, Looks like you have the SPI engine as opposed to my MPI one. You sure you've bought the correct kit. Send me the link of where you ordered it (If online), and I'll check it out for you mate.

   Cheers buddy...
   
   I spoke to the guy on the site who was sure this was the right kit...
   
   http://www.toys4cars.co.uk/index.php...=5287_609_6609
   
   K&N Part number 57-0404. Its a 2000 W reg by the way.
9. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

   #9 29th April 2009, 19:31

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by go-di Cheers buddy... I spoke to the guy on the site who was sure this was the right kit... http://www.toys4cars.co.uk/index.php...=5287_609_6609 K&N Part number 57-0404. Its a 2000 W reg by the way.

   You sure its a 2000 reg mate? Not 1999? could make alot of difference.
10. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #10 29th April 2009, 19:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Docsamty You sure its a 2000 reg mate? Not 1999? could make alot of difference.

    
    ive looked at my cars registrtion documents and the date of the car being registered is 24/03/2000 is there any other way to check?
11. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #11 29th April 2009, 19:40

    There are too many of these threads on fitting indcution kits to 1.1s
    
    If i could find a 1.1, i would fit a K an N on and make a guide on it. Really its not rocket science.
12. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

    #12 29th April 2009, 19:41

    autocheck.com might help, let me know?
13. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #13 29th April 2009, 19:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Docsamty autocheck.com might help, let me know?

    I ran a check on directline via the reg and it comes up with:
    
    CITROEN SAXO 1.1I (00 ON) FORTE 3DR 1124cc 3DR
14. Docsamty Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Oxfordshire - Banbury Posts: 713 S1 Rallye

    #14 29th April 2009, 19:59

    In that case, it appears that you have the right kit. Your engine looks different to mine though. Sorry mate, I cant really help you. Maybe could if you post some more detailed pics up.
15. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #15 29th April 2009, 20:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Docsamty In that case, it appears that you have the right kit. Your engine looks different to mine though. Sorry mate, I cant really help you. Maybe could if you post some more detailed pics up.

    thanx for your help buddy its much apreciated ill see how i get on and let you know if im still struggling ha ha
16. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #16 30th April 2009, 11:37

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by go-di thanx for your help buddy its much apreciated ill see how i get on and let you know if im still struggling ha ha

    i had a friend to look at it for me this is wht we did. it does wrk but would like your opintion?
    
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17. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #17 30th April 2009, 11:38

    i had a friend to look at it for me this is wht we did. it does wrk but would like your opintion?
    
    
18. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #18 30th April 2009, 11:39

    Youve got the wrong kit mate that engine is the same as my old 1.1 you need the kit that sits right on top of the TB with no piping or anything!!
    
    Its looks like a cone filter but flatened...
19. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #19 30th April 2009, 11:42

    k&n Part No. 57-0204
20. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #20 30th April 2009, 11:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus Youve got the wrong kit mate that engine is the same as my old 1.1 you need the kit that sits right on top of the TB with no piping or anything!! Its looks like a cone filter but flatened...

    After all that he has the wrong kit
    
    I think he could just junk the piping, and just use the filter that he got with the kit,Just striaght on the TB with a hose clip.
21. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #21 30th April 2009, 11:45

    Think its gonna be too tall bonnet wont shut
    
    As the TB faces upwards...
22. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #22 30th April 2009, 11:47

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus Think its gonna be too tall bonnet wont shut As the TB faces upwards...

    I was about to mention bonnet clearenece
    
    Stupid layout of the 1.1 Tb, stright up isnt it? how are you meant to fit any filter, with the bonnet?
23. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #23 30th April 2009, 11:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 After all that he has the wrong kit I think he could just junk the piping, and just use the filter that he got with the kit,Just striaght on the TB with a hose clip.

    thats wht ive done just put the actual filter on to the TB and used the origional piping with the maff censor on for the air intake is this ok? im still learning ha ha
24. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #24 30th April 2009, 11:51

    thats wht ive done just put the actual filter on to the TB and used the origional piping with the maff censor on for the air intake is this ok? im still learning ha ha
25. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #25 30th April 2009, 11:51

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaXo_vtr123 I was about to mention bonnet clearenece Stupid layout of the 1.1 Tb, stright up isnt it? how are you meant to fit any filter, with the bonnet?

    when i had my 1.1 the K&N was the only one that would fit i looked everywhere. seemed to be the only one around purely because of the TB posistion! not even if you got some pipe on it and bent it, it would still be too tall. sucky design tbh
26. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #26 30th April 2009, 11:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by go-di thats wht ive done just put the actual filter on to the TB and used the origional piping with the maff censor on for the air intake is this ok? im still learning ha ha

    Youve got the wrong kit full stop dude take a pic of what youve done though im interested
27. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #27 30th April 2009, 11:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus when i had my 1.1 the K&N was the only one that would fit i looked everywhere. seemed to be the only one around purely because of the TB posistion! not even if you got some pipe on it and bent it, it would still be too tall. sucky design tbh

    so its fine to do that? i was just a little worried incase ya know?
28. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #28 30th April 2009, 11:57

    post a pic dude i need to see what youve done then ill tell you if its safe
29. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #29 30th April 2009, 12:10

    http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos..._6692515_n.jpg
30. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #30 30th April 2009, 12:23

    Lol I can honestly say that's the most ingenius way of fitting an air filter. Right... That is definantly the wrong kit mate that black box you have it attatched to is supposed to be completley removed. Either get your money back and get the correct kit I posted or make sure that the clip holding the filter on is super tight I can see that falling off at some point. Plus the heatsoak from it being in the posistion defeats the object of having it. I'd strongly suggest getting the correct kit mate. :-)
31. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #31 1st May 2009, 12:00

    What have you decided to do dude?
32. stephen34 Frequent Poster Joined: Nov 2008 yateley Posts: 776 mrk 2 vtr cammed more to come :)

    #32 1st May 2009, 12:15

    u have the worng one because urs is only spi u need one that sits the the over side where the air box use to be or one like my old car that sits on the tb
33. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #33 1st May 2009, 13:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stephen34 u have the worng one because urs is only spi u need one that sits the the over side where the air box use to be or one like my old car that sits on the tb

    im guna sent the kit back and see if they can send me the k&n Part No. 57-0204 like you sed hopefully all will go smoothly?
34. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #34 1st May 2009, 13:17

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by go-di im guna sent the kit back and see if they can send me the k&n Part No. 57-0204 like you sed hopefully all will go smoothly?

    good stuff you will see what i mean as soon as you see the new kit
35. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #35 1st May 2009, 13:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus good stuff you will see what i mean as soon as you see the new kit

    k&n Part No. 57-0204 so this is the actually kit for the SPI engine bud?
36. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #36 1st May 2009, 14:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by go-di k&n Part No. 57-0204 so this is the actually kit for the SPI engine bud?

    Yep
37. go-di Newbie Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 19

    #37 1st May 2009, 14:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus Yep

    thanks buddy much appreciated i let you know how i get on thanks again