VTS gearbox in a VTR?

1. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

   #1 30th April 2009, 09:37

   Morning all,
   
   I have got a VTS gearbox for my VTR, and getting it fitted tomorrow (Friday) and have heard that the VTS gearbox will affect MPG alot (I know this is to be expected due to the ratios of the box etc), but how much is it effected? I'll be doing some motorway miles in the car, as well as the usual national speed limit roads going to and from places in the N.E.
   
   Can someone help with my query?
   
   Thanks in advance!
2. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #2 30th April 2009, 09:54

   don't sway much further than 70 and it'll be fine.
3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 30th April 2009, 09:58

   As Ads says really, over 70 and your more than half way up the 8valve rev range irc, been a while since ive driven it lol.
4. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

   #4 30th April 2009, 09:58

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer don't sway much further than 70 and it'll be fine.

   Is that due to the revs sitting higher with an S box? I have read somewhere that in a VTR, travelling at 80mph, the revs sit at 3.5k (this is true), a VTR with a VTS gearbox at 80mph will sit at 4.5k revs? That true?
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 30th April 2009, 09:59

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Raz Is that due to the revs sitting higher with an S box? I have read somewhere that in a VTR, travelling at 80mph, the revs sit at 3.5k (this is true), a VTR with a VTS gearbox at 80mph will sit at 4.5k revs? That true?

   Yeh thats true mate, i guess you wrote that as i posted my post above yours which says that really
6. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

   #6 30th April 2009, 10:02

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by db_sax Yeh thats true mate, i guess you wrote that as i posted my post above yours which says that really

   HAHA i actually didnt see your post...sorry dude! LOL
   
   So fitting a VTS gearbox to a VTR is good for what I currently do? National Speed limit roads, and some motorway miles
7. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

   #7 30th April 2009, 10:06

   at about 3600rpm you're at 70mph in 5th in a VTS (or a Vts'd boxed VTR)
   at about 4100rpm you're at 80mph
   
   That's actual speed an not indicated speed though.
8. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

   #8 30th April 2009, 10:06

   ask any really driver, any real saxo driver.
   
   They will say do it.
   
   If just using it for the same driving, never going on quarter mile or track seriously wouldnt bother imo.
9. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #9 30th April 2009, 10:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by adsayer at about 3600rpm you're at 70mph in 5th in a VTS (or a Vts'd boxed VTR) at about 4100rpm you're at 80mph That's actual speed an not indicated speed though.

   Is this all from your new spreadsheet thing? lol
10. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #10 30th April 2009, 10:14

    Top end will be effected with a VTS gearbox on a R then? Not that I will ever get to that speed, but you get what I mean.
11. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #11 30th April 2009, 10:42

    accelerate faster in each gear... top speed might be a touch higher (like 1mph)
12. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #12 30th April 2009, 10:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax Is this all from your new spreadsheet thing? lol

    hahaha yep!
13. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #13 30th April 2009, 10:57

    Ahh I see...understood more now LOL
    
    Well, for the kind of driving I do, as well as wanting a few track days, I might as well get it fittied
    
    Cheers all for the info
    
    Ads - what spreadsheet thing is db_sax going on about? Im intregued LOL
14. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #14 30th April 2009, 10:59

    stupidly boring Excel based 'Saxo Simulator'.
15. Raz Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jun 2007 Darlington Posts: 8766 Icelandic Grey Citroen Saxo VTS

    #15 30th April 2009, 11:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer stupidly boring Excel based 'Saxo Simulator'.

    send me email? LOL i'm interested in your boring shizzle!
16. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #16 30th April 2009, 11:33

    Its not quite 'release'able yet man