intercooler hoses and fittings

1. mischief Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Hampshire Posts: 324 Wicked Red Vtr.

   #1 4th May 2009, 14:22

   as above is there a specific fittings i need for the saxo or are they universal but just different size pipes?
   
   also what are JIC, BSP or Metric fittings?
2. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #2 4th May 2009, 17:41

   Jic bsp metric are different fitting sizes and types
   jic is commenly used in motorsport
   
   fittings like hoses need to be matchd to the outlet/inlets of things like tb and intercooler.
   Silicon pipe for connections and metal for joiners, make sure ends are swaged to stop blow off
   dont use jubilee clips to secure.
   Mikalor clamps are much better though cost alot more.
   I can supply most of the above if given dimensions
3. mischief Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Hampshire Posts: 324 Wicked Red Vtr.

   #3 4th May 2009, 17:59

   i was thinking of going for a mocal 10row oil cooler and the site i was looking on said to specify what fittings i needed.
   
   and its a oil cooler and intercooler the same thing.
   
   i thought a intercooler it air to air and air to liquid and a oil cooler is just air to liquid?
   
   please shed some light on this for me lol
4. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #4 4th May 2009, 18:01

   intercooler is different to oil cooler. Intercooler is for cars with 'boost'.
   
   iirc most 13 row oil coolers are 1/2" BSP fittings
5. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #5 4th May 2009, 18:13

   Yes as said
   intercooler and oil cooler are very different!
   Intercooler drops down the air temp, makeing it more dense which inturn gives a bigger bang and thus more power
   an oilcooler does what it says and cools the oil that circulates around the engine.
   If fitting one id suggest getting a thermostaic one.as haveing oil which is too cold is as bad as haveing oil which is too hot
6. mischief Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Hampshire Posts: 324 Wicked Red Vtr.

   #6 4th May 2009, 18:15

   so u recommend intercooler to keep air temp down aswell as a oil cooler to keep the oil temp down for a turbo setup?
7. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #7 4th May 2009, 18:20

   ideally yes - iirc though the intercooler does add to the lag? Not 100% thought, might be wrong as I'm not clued up on boost things.
8. user_16747 Banned Joined: Jul 2007 Posts: 4328

   #8 4th May 2009, 18:23

   Yes idealy you would fit both.
   Getting them both mounted and pipes routed correctly is the hard part.
   If you suspect high charge temps will be a problem then id also suggest fitting a water/methanol injection to reduce things further.
   One is acceptable close to the tb exit, but one for each port would be better.

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9. mischief Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Hampshire Posts: 324 Wicked Red Vtr.

   #9 4th May 2009, 19:37

   thanks vry much for your help just what i needed to know
10. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #10 4th May 2009, 21:02

    Intercoolers do add to lag to a degree but it depends how long the piping is and more importantly how big your intercooler is lol
    
    Its the time the air takes to travel around the system before getting back to engine that causes the lag.
    
    Matt.