Not what i expected (now 80% sure i want to decat)

1. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

   #1 5th May 2009, 16:01

   Got and fitted a new race supersprint system at the weekend (Centre pipe and Backbox)
   
   Cant fault the quality and I can feel a difference in the car
   
   But...
   
   It sounds nothing like I thought barely a rumble on idle and when revving it i can hear a slight different in tone but not what i was expecting.
   
   Im still very happy with it but just surprised it hasnt got more of a kick. Will it settle in and sound different?
   
   and dont say de-cat not an option!
2. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #2 5th May 2009, 16:03

   Give it some time to bed in and carbon up then it will sound nice
3. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

   #3 5th May 2009, 16:07

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by cj_99 Give it some time to bed in and carbon up then it will sound nice

   Promise?
4. jimbo06 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2006 Sunderland Posts: 3052 52 VTS, 172 Cup

   #4 5th May 2009, 16:10

   yeh it should get alittle louder after a week or two
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 5th May 2009, 16:12

   no, because you'll need a decat haha, hows it not an option?
6. frankie Saxperience Addict Joined: Apr 2006 Frome, down deepest, darkest zummerset Posts: 12971 VTRallye

   #6 5th May 2009, 16:13

   well if its not decat'ed its gunna sound dull....
   
   whats the point in buy a race system and leaving the cat on....
7. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

   #7 5th May 2009, 16:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Maxamus Promise?

   mine does but i think you should decat it come play with the big boys
8. one_nation04 Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Watford Posts: 1636 2001 VTR ... silver S

   #8 5th May 2009, 16:28

   i had mine on a mk2 vtr too, so didnt decat it and at first wasnt too raspy or anything but after a week or two it did start to kick in, like everyone has said. I now have it on my vts and it has decatted it and the sound is 100 times beter, go for a decat with it mate, gives the perfect note
9. dj_russell Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 in shell with personal v-power pump lol. Posts: 2197 400bhp build gt4

   #9 5th May 2009, 16:31

   mate mines got a full straight through just with a middle section and backbox silencer and it sounds quiet as a mouse to me but in a way its nice to not draw attention to it.
10. Wistow Newbie Joined: Apr 2008 Barnsley Posts: 14 MKII VTS

    #10 5th May 2009, 16:39

    De-cat all the way!
11. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #11 5th May 2009, 17:57

    hmmm being swayed towards a de-cat here... i just cba to put a cat back on for mot as its on the mani. everytime you swap a mani do you need a gasket? hmmm ill give it a couple of weeks and decide unless someone has a sound clip or a vid that could sway me to a final decision
12. MiniGibbo Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Apr 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 15289 '04 VW Transporter.

    #12 5th May 2009, 18:00

    LOL at all the de-cat replys.
    
    Yes de-cat will pop and bang but once its bedded in itll be better.
    
    Generally they take between 100-1000 miles before properly bedding in.
    
    Matt.
13. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #13 5th May 2009, 18:03

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MiniGibbo LOL at all the de-cat replys. Yes de-cat will pop and bang but once its bedded in itll be better. Generally they take between 100-1000 miles before properly bedding in. Matt.

    100-1000 thats a pretty big bracket
14. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #14 5th May 2009, 18:05

    A MkI exhaust and CAT will fit your car and will get you through an MOT is you do or want to de-CAT.
    
    Changing the manifold is a one time job trust me!
15. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #15 5th May 2009, 18:06

    i had a back box like this it was silent, i waited a few weeks for it to settle but it never did??? i added a centre section to pump up the volume
16. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #16 5th May 2009, 18:14

    If you wanted noise you should've got a Powerho' or Piper.
17. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #17 5th May 2009, 18:20

    its not that i wanted noise although it would be nice its just i thought the system i have was going to be a bit more......well more!
18. camTcar Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 borders, and washington Posts: 758 mk1 vts and ltd edition corsa

    #18 5th May 2009, 18:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Maxamus its not that i wanted noise although it would be nice its just i thought the system i have was going to be a bit more......well more!

    come on man admit it you want some noise lol
19. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #19 5th May 2009, 18:29

    It will bed in mate. I bought an exhaust sytem, was silent to start with but eventually gave a small increase. As mentioned a de-cat would sort it out though.
    
    Remember though, too noisy is queer.
20. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #20 5th May 2009, 18:47

    Just get a center section with a cat mate, then put that on instead of the mani come mot time. People have done it before. Saves hassle
21. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #21 5th May 2009, 18:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by camTcar come on man admit it you want some noise lol

    maybe
    
    

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danr It will bed in mate. I bought an exhaust sytem, was silent to start with but eventually gave a small increase. As mentioned a de-cat would sort it out though. Remember though, too noisy is queer.

    Yeh didnt want it chav loud...
22. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #22 6th May 2009, 12:05

    ok so im 80% sure i want to de-cat. so in order to do that i need a new manifold
    
    I want a decently priced one that will bolt straight on without any modification!
    
    any suggestions welcome.
    
    P.s raceland dont do online anymore
23. user_257 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2003 Kent Posts: 3994

    #23 6th May 2009, 21:48

    Leave it mate. MOT time can become a bit of a headache.
24. JamesRm Forum Section Moderator Joined: Aug 2008 Liverpool Posts: 15517 Saxo VTR

    #24 6th May 2009, 22:03

    If you can cope with MOT time, and want the extra bit of power, then go for it.
    
    In face try it, will never know until you try yourself
25. SaxoMuffin Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Reading Posts: 2045 iTB'd MK2 VTR

    #25 6th May 2009, 22:09

    now you know how i felt max....well how i still feel roll on pay day....
    
    
    Then again you were used to a roar in the 1.1
26. SaxoMuffin Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Reading Posts: 2045 iTB'd MK2 VTR

    #26 6th May 2009, 22:12

    oh and what about the janspeed manifold with sports cat? best of both worlds?
27. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #27 7th May 2009, 09:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin oh and what about the janspeed manifold with sports cat? best of both worlds?

    hard to get hold of but i suppose its an option...
28. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #28 7th May 2009, 09:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SaxoMuffin now you know how i felt max....well how i still feel roll on pay day.... Then again you were used to a roar in the 1.1

    yeh that was pretty loud but stupid
29. iw_laurence Established Member Joined: Apr 2008 Isle of Wight Posts: 1971 BMW E30

    #29 7th May 2009, 09:26

    get a nice 4-2-1 manifold, i managed to take my whole exhaust system off, heawrap it, and put it back on in just over an hour, so its not that big a job at all.
30. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #30 7th May 2009, 10:21

    Anyone know the part number for the MK1 vtr cat and center pipe?
31. mattzsaxvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 sheffield Posts: 510 mk2 vtr

    #31 7th May 2009, 10:45

    8987676bnb
32. mattzsaxvtr Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 sheffield Posts: 510 mk2 vtr

    #32 7th May 2009, 10:46

    just kidding i dont know it
33. whits87 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Kirkby In Ashfield Posts: 477 Saxo VTR Saxo 1.1sx Fiesta Courier Van

    #33 7th May 2009, 11:53

    Lmao @ Mattz!
34. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #34 7th May 2009, 12:09

    Dont bother posting if you have nothing interesting to say
35. kistigun Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP

    #35 7th May 2009, 12:34

    maby this will help: http://www.citispares.co.uk/PartsSea...aust&Submit=Go

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36. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #36 7th May 2009, 12:53

    says Catalyic Converter will it come with the rest of the center section too you think>?
37. kistigun Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP

    #37 7th May 2009, 12:56

    no the cat and the center section(mid silencer) are borh different parts

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38. whits87 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Kirkby In Ashfield Posts: 477 Saxo VTR Saxo 1.1sx Fiesta Courier Van

    #38 7th May 2009, 14:36

    Terribly sorry Maxamus!
    
    Maxamus says: Catalyic Converter will it come with the rest of the center section too you think>? <--------Really interesting! Dick!
39. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #39 7th May 2009, 15:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by whits87 Terribly sorry Maxamus! Maxamus says: Catalyic Converter will it come with the rest of the center section too you think>? <--------Really interesting! Dick!

    Hold on!! WTF is with the agression... its a simple question whether its interesting or not to you. Its my f**king thread why bother making a comment if you have nothing to say about the subject except hurling abuse. so stfu and go troll somewhere else "Dick"
    
    seriously wtf is wrong with some people!!!!
40. whits87 Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Kirkby In Ashfield Posts: 477 Saxo VTR Saxo 1.1sx Fiesta Courier Van

    #40 7th May 2009, 15:18

    Aggression?...Lmao That’s not aggression!?
    
    Its my way of showing i appreciate your authority of who can post and who carnt…
    
    Sorry Boss!
41. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #41 7th May 2009, 15:32

    Back on topic now...
    
    Anyone had problems with janspeed manifolds I.e oil filter clearance etc what about quality? they seem decently price to me...
42. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #42 7th May 2009, 15:47

    Janspeed are a good exhaust manufacturer mate. Should fit fine.
43. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #43 7th May 2009, 15:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danr Janspeed are a good exhaust manufacturer mate. Should fit fine.

    Suppose thats a good enough answer for me
44. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #44 7th May 2009, 15:54

    I'd do it. I had a raceland that i was going to fit on my vtr. It wasn't a great fit but went on alright. Needed new gaskets though so didn't leave it on. Just slid it on to check fitting. Someone else on here has it now and it's fine!
45. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #45 7th May 2009, 16:01

    Raceland dont do online anymore do they?
46. Danr Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Charming man Posts: 15880 Charming car

    #46 7th May 2009, 16:07

    They don't but you can't really go wrong with a second hand one. Check ebay for a new one as well. Always people selling old stock etc.

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47. user_11357 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Aug 2006 Sunbury On Thames, Surrey Posts: 2593 I like Bikes now 👍🏻

    #47 7th May 2009, 16:08

    good point, cheers dan