Most bhp out of an N/A VTS engine?

1. bigbadboy L-plater Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 78

   #1 7th May 2009, 19:59

   Question says it all - anyone here got 200 and also what sort of spec would you need to get that sort of power?
2. saxojamesb Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 warwickshire Posts: 1028 3 saxo's 2 audi's 205 mr2 rover 200

   #2 7th May 2009, 20:03

   new ast car mag a 106gti with 258.1bhp lol
3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 7th May 2009, 20:06

   n/a ?! Thats some crazy power!!! Fair play !
4. dj_russell Established Member Joined: Mar 2009 in shell with personal v-power pump lol. Posts: 2197 400bhp build gt4

   #4 7th May 2009, 20:07

   what had been done to it??
5. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #5 7th May 2009, 20:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxojamesb new ast car mag a 106gti with 258.1bhp lol

   is that a boosted TU or NA TU though?
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 7th May 2009, 20:12

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by bigbadboy Question says it all - anyone here got 200 and also what sort of spec would you need to get that sort of power?

   get 10k, either similar to my spec but with slightly wilder cams or a longmans lump which make 206bhp.
7. saxojamesb Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 warwickshire Posts: 1028 3 saxo's 2 audi's 205 mr2 rover 200

   #7 7th May 2009, 20:13

   1587cc dohc 16v pug1o turbo forged 841 compression pistons steel con rods arp con rod bolts garrett gt28r roller bering turbo charger custom turbo exhaust pug1of front mount cooler bailey dump valve emerald 3d k3 ecu 480cc injectors
8. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #8 7th May 2009, 20:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxojamesb 1587cc dohc 16v pug1o turbo forged 841 compression pistons steel con rods arp con rod bolts garrett gt28r roller bering turbo charger custom turbo exhaust pug1of front mount cooler bailey dump valve emerald 3d k3 ecu 480cc injectors

   So that not NA then. Boosted were seeing 300+ ATW now
9. saxojamesb Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 warwickshire Posts: 1028 3 saxo's 2 audi's 205 mr2 rover 200

   #9 7th May 2009, 20:16

   lol o sh*t yeah my bad lol
10. Nij Yorkshire Joined: Apr 2008 Brighouse, W. Yorks Posts: 3699 Citroen C4 VTR Coupe Porsche 924

    #10 7th May 2009, 20:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan So that not NA then. Boosted were seeing 300+ ATW now

    lol was thinking 250 - PFC has a turbo'd 106 GTi at 250 lol.
    
    i think anything over about 165bhp must be on TB's and like Ryan says max really NA is 210bhp.
    Ryans is 198ish bhp IIRC
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 7th May 2009, 20:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nij lol was thinking 250 - PFC has a turbo'd 106 GTi at 250 lol. i think anything over about 165bhp must be on TB's and like Ryan says max really NA is 210bhp. Ryans is 198ish bhp IIRC

    Nah easy to get more than 210 really, the issue is then you have a very peaky engine which is utterly shit unless the gearbox is spot on. The PSA rally cars were restrcited at either 220/230.
12. Nij Yorkshire Joined: Apr 2008 Brighouse, W. Yorks Posts: 3699 Citroen C4 VTR Coupe Porsche 924

    #12 7th May 2009, 21:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Nah easy to get more than 210 really, the issue is then you have a very peaky engine which is utterly shit unless the gearbox is spot on. The PSA rally cars were restrcited at either 220/230.

    jesus, how much ££££? lol
13. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #13 7th May 2009, 21:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nij jesus, how much ££££? lol

    Not a massive amount more than my current engine really, wilder cams, tweek of the head, making sure the exhaust/manifolds are perfect etc.....
    
    Its just the gearbox which is a massive limiting factor for a road car.
14. titchster Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jan 2008 Down't road from Sheffield Posts: 4641 Was:16v 106 XS ..... Now: Import 1.8 MX5

    #14 8th May 2009, 00:11

    It's the silver Pug1Off turbo in this months FC.
    
    Ryan, you're not far off 200bhp are you? And Bic was 206bhp, wasn't he?
15. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #15 8th May 2009, 00:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by titchster It's the silver Pug1Off turbo in this months FC. Ryan, you're not far off 200bhp are you? And Bic was 206bhp, wasn't he?

    Between 185 and 200 depending on the rollers, theres more in her for sure as the mapping isnt spot on. Could easily see over 200 really if i changed the cams but dont see a point unless the engine is fooked atm lol!
    
    Bics and all the longmans ones are stated to have made 206 on their engine dyno.
16. VtsTom Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye

    #16 8th May 2009, 11:13

    Dont the Greeks run silly NA power?
17. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #17 8th May 2009, 11:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VtsTom Dont the Greeks run silly NA power?

    ney brother, for they art all of turbo'd variety.
18. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #18 8th May 2009, 11:17

    is he not thinking of the liolio cars? making 175hp on single TB?
19. VtsTom Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye

    #19 8th May 2009, 11:17

    Im sure some dude came on here with a video of something like a 10000rpm NA drag saxo/106..
20. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #20 8th May 2009, 11:17

    http://lioliosracing.gr/main.php?id=142&lang=en
21. VtsTom Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye

    #21 8th May 2009, 11:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts http://lioliosracing.gr/main.php?id=142&lang=en

    Wasnt them.
    
    Was a 106 i think... 6 speed sequential box with mad rpm in greece or turkey i think. Dam it i cant remember what his user name was. He posted in a thread alot like this one
22. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #22 8th May 2009, 11:57

    i'm hoping to get about 200-220bhp out of my 1.6 engine, revving to around 9000rpm.
    Its a bastard child of many peugeot engines though. mi16 block, Gti-6 head, XU7 forged pistons and 205 1.6gti crank
    you dont see many top end VTS engines running a forged crank which would allow the engine to rev higher to gain a few more horses though for that you are getting into race only territory. QEP built a 230bhp engine once though I forget the spec.
    
    Ryan I think you will be able to get a couple of bhp extra with a really good mapping session. Let me know when you do as I'll come and stand around enjoying the induction roar
    
    Kev
23. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #23 8th May 2009, 13:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing Ryan I think you will be able to get a couple of bhp extra with a really good mapping session. Let me know when you do as I'll come and stand around enjoying the induction roar Kev

    No probs dude, i dont know when it will be running again first lol!
    
    It was due to have the map tweeked by mr walker back in feb but the electrics shat themself first