has anyone else got fake angel lights??

12th May 2009, 12:58

hiya everyone i bought some second hand angels lights off ebay for my mk 1 and i fitted them turned them ona nd the ring dint light up i was oh bugger ive done sumit wrong but i looked closer and the rings arent even leds! they are just reflectors they look good just like angels should do but it just has normal side lights in them?? has anyone got these i dint no you could get angel look a like lights

12th May 2009, 16:57

They look ok but tbh not my cup of tea

12th May 2009, 17:02

how much you pay for them? they look ok doh

12th May 2009, 17:03

the black ones are better

12th May 2009, 17:03

They don't look too bad mate

12th May 2009, 18:07

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Originally Posted by Add91289

how much you pay for them? they look ok doh

£60 they loo alright but they dont have the rings tho

12th May 2009, 18:08

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Originally Posted by db_sax

the black ones are better

yea but these were bloody cheap lol about the third of the price of new ones

12th May 2009, 18:17

bare in mind the rings are almost impossible to see at daytime. did you have like 2 loose red and black wires on the back of each healight? cause you need to bullet connector those onto the sidelight wiring, like this:

12th May 2009, 18:21

are they the same as these mate

12th May 2009, 18:24

Nice drawing

Did the person who u bought them off say they were replicas or real things?

12th May 2009, 18:32

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Originally Posted by ShaneyG7

Nice drawing

Did the person who u bought them off say they were replicas or real things?

they didnt really say anything about them just called them angel lights lol

12th May 2009, 18:34

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Originally Posted by NICK2506

bare in mind the rings are almost impossible to see at daytime. did you have like 2 loose red and black wires on the back of each healight? cause you need to bullet connector those onto the sidelight wiring, like this:

i dont think there are any wires behind it anyway it just has a normal sidelight like your normal headlights have if you look closely between the 2 big main circles in the headlight there is a small black hole and thats where the side light bulb goes and you dont get these on proper angels cus obv the rings replace your sidelights dont they?

12th May 2009, 18:36

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Originally Posted by saxovtsmad

are they the same as these mate

cant really see mate cus yours are smoked i do prefer your smoked ones

is there anyway to smoke angel lights like you can do with standard lights?

12th May 2009, 18:38

Black ones look best imo..

12th May 2009, 20:11

i have them in black they have one light at the bottom and the ring is glass when the lights on it light the whole ring

12th May 2009, 20:18

mine are not smoked mate they are black

12th May 2009, 21:39

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Originally Posted by saxovtsmad

mine are not smoked mate they are black

yea sorry thats what i ment i wouldnt mind trying to take the glass off and spray the back of the light black but i might just buy some ones like yours then they will look perfect and ill actually have angel eyes in the headlight not just reflectors! lol

12th May 2009, 22:57

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

i dont think there are any wires behind it anyway it just has a normal sidelight like your normal headlights have if you look closely between the 2 big main circles in the headlight there is a small black hole and thats where the side light bulb goes and you dont get these on proper angels cus obv the rings replace your sidelights dont they?

yeah they do replace the sidelights, but even on mine which are definatley 100% real angel eyes, you still have an area to put the original side light back in.you have the original side light and the halo's on mk1's iirc, and on mk2's the original sidelight, halo's and an LED. but you can chose what combination you wire up....so just halos, or halos and original sidelight, halos and LED, LED and original sidelight etc etc

12th May 2009, 23:23

Personally i dont like them - but tbh if they were only £60 not bad...they cud look worse but whos gonna notice wen yur driving along??

12th May 2009, 23:40

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Originally Posted by GoochyBoy

Personally i dont like them - but tbh if they were only £60 not bad...they cud look worse but whos gonna notice wen yur driving along??

yea no one will notice its just the fact of thinking i had led rings around my lights when i didnt lol not a massive deal but i like the look of the halos i think im just gonna sell them and buy some 100% real angel lights but black ones, i like them just cus they just make the front of the car more modern the standard headlights are just a bit dull and dated for my liking but each to there own

28th May 2009, 01:39

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

i dont think there are any wires behind it anyway it just has a normal sidelight like your normal headlights have if you look closely between the 2 big main circles in the headlight there is a small black hole and thats where the side light bulb goes and you dont get these on proper angels cus obv the rings replace your sidelights dont they?

dude im pretty sure i have the same angels, they're made by sonar. have a look close up on the front it will say the brand name next to the E marking.

at the back of each angel you should have the 3 pin headlight plug and then some extra black/red wires. the black/red ones are power/earth for the halo LED's.

are you saying you don't have those black/red wires?

28th May 2009, 01:46

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Originally Posted by mrgris

dude im pretty sure i have the same angels, they're made by sonar. have a look close up on the front it will say the brand name next to the E marking.

at the back of each angel you should have the 3 pin headlight plug and then some extra black/red wires. the black/red ones are power/earth for the halo LED's.

are you saying you don't have those black/red wires?

no i dont have the wires at all it is litterally just a shitty reflector around the headlights and also on my original headlights there is a connector to plug in the electronic headlight adjustment and these dont have them either you have to adjust them manually so not only do i not have the halo rings ive also got an electrical connector on each side which dont go anywhere cus i dont have the socket on the headlights to plug them in im just gonna take them off and buy some real black ones

28th May 2009, 13:29

Mine aint fake asin the halos light up, but they have plastic fucking wankstain bollocks fronts that have cracked.

Came with the car so was just a case of waiting for them to crack.

28th May 2009, 13:31

Well mate theres nothing to stop you sending em back if they aint the real thing

If they are described as 'angel eyes' you expect em to be the same as every other angel eye on the market

If they dont do the full job or are replicas then it should be clearly stated and if he hasn't done so you are entitled to a full refund

28th May 2009, 13:53

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Originally Posted by SteveWC

Well mate theres nothing to stop you sending em back if they aint the real thing

If they are described as 'angel eyes' you expect em to be the same as every other angel eye on the market

If they dont do the full job or are replicas then it should be clearly stated and if he hasn't done so you are entitled to a full refund

its been a while now and tbh i cant be bothered to get a refund

28th May 2009, 17:12

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

no i dont have the wires at all it is litterally just a shitty reflector around the headlights and also on my original headlights there is a connector to plug in the electronic headlight adjustment and these dont have them either you have to adjust them manually so not only do i not have the halo rings ive also got an electrical connector on each side which dont go anywhere cus i dont have the socket on the headlights to plug them in im just gonna take them off and buy some real black ones

ah sh*t, can't say i've ever heard of fake angels tho!

afaik no mk1 angels have electronic headlight adjustment.

28th May 2009, 18:25

this is a pic of them at night tym it looks as if they are working but they are just the reflectors shining with the flash of the camera

28th May 2009, 21:14

where did u get them lights?

28th May 2009, 21:16

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Originally Posted by jack123

where did u get them lights?

just got them off ebay second hand mate

1st June 2009, 00:31

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Originally Posted by mrgris

dude im pretty sure i have the same angels, they're made by sonar. have a look close up on the front it will say the brand name next to the E marking.

at the back of each angel you should have the 3 pin headlight plug and then some extra black/red wires. the black/red ones are power/earth for the halo LED's.

are you saying you don't have those black/red wires?

hiya mate i looked again and they are made by sonar the same as yours but i still cant see any extra wires these are a couple photos of behind the left hand side headlight tell me if u can see anything im missing cus i cant see any extra red or black wires

2nd June 2009, 00:45

this really isnt the best photo mate just one i took when i had my angels apart to upgrade the halo rings to super-bright 45000mcd LED's

iirc the black/wires come out of the bottom of the headlight (not the back like the 3 pin socket) and are held in place by the black rubber grommets you can see in the pic.

2nd June 2009, 01:12

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Originally Posted by mrgris

this really isnt the best photo mate just one i took when i had my angels apart to upgrade the halo rings to super-bright 45000mcd LED's

iirc the black/wires come out of the bottom of the headlight (not the back like the 3 pin socket) and are held in place by the black rubber grommets you can see in the pic.

cheers for ur help mate ill take a look under the lights tomorrow im probably just gonna end up buying some black angels now anyway lol

2nd June 2009, 01:13

if i do find the red and black wires im guessing the red one goes straight to the battery and the black one i just earth to a bolt in the engine bay some where?

2nd June 2009, 09:19

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Originally Posted by jeffchiz

if i do find the red and black wires im guessing the red one goes straight to the battery and the black one i just earth to a bolt in the engine bay some where?

no mate, you have to cut off the original sidelight connector and join the sidelight wires to the red/black ones coming off the angels. i used a 5 Amp Strip Connector like this to tidy things up

http://www.shopwiki.co.uk/_Strip+Connector+-+5A

2nd June 2009, 09:21

you can buy them from halfrauds for about £1-1.50

2nd June 2009, 09:22

Brought some black angel eyes the other day... there coming this morning... hope there not fake :O

And to be honest... they look alright, its only at night its gonna matter...

2nd June 2009, 14:02

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Originally Posted by mrgris

you can buy them from halfrauds for about £1-1.50

i think ive got some of those connectors in the garage somewhere from when i put 6 neons, a head unit and a 6x9 on to my old moped! haha i was the mobile night club lol i'll take one of the headlights off in a bit and tell everyone my findings gotta help my mom do some decorating lol

2nd June 2009, 14:03

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Originally Posted by bmthboi08

Brought some black angel eyes the other day... there coming this morning... hope there not fake :O

And to be honest... they look alright, its only at night its gonna matter...

i wouldnt worry by the looks of it on one else has fake ones but im gonna look later and see if there are any wires under the headlight