new saxo owner any cheap engine mods?

1. buttmunch Newbie Joined: May 2009 kent Posts: 9 saxo vtr

   #1 14th May 2009, 15:33

   i just bought a saxo vtr standard, i would like to keep the looks very standard but up the power any cheap modding ideas for engine ect?
   plus will my multi fittting 17's fit on it?
   this is a x reg (2000) vtr.
   in fact and good but cheap mod ideas would be appreicated!!! thanks let me know k.
2. fossie Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 Spennymoor, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3742 Saxo MK2 VTS

   #2 14th May 2009, 15:36

   imo i wouldnt fit the alloys, will look too big....... for performance i would get a manifold and exhaust for starters
3. buttmunch Newbie Joined: May 2009 kent Posts: 9 saxo vtr

   #3 14th May 2009, 15:36

   plus any where i can pick up cheap mod parts? thanks k
4. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #4 14th May 2009, 15:38

   cheap mods are not going to get you any noticable performance gains mate.
5. kistigun Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP

   #5 14th May 2009, 15:39

   try ebay or kamracing
6. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

   #6 14th May 2009, 15:41

   hi buttmunch...lol
   just get a 16v engine
7. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #7 14th May 2009, 15:42

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by djflipsaxo hi buttmunch...lol just get a 16v engine

   CHEAP mod!
8. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

   #8 14th May 2009, 15:45

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Aron CHEAP mod!

   imo that is cheap.
   you could pick up a cheap engine, do the work youself, its going to give the best difference than any exhaust or induction kit!
9. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #9 14th May 2009, 15:48

   if you pick up a cheap one it will be rubbish! looking 200-300+ for a good one. then think insurance change aswell... not cheap in anyway.
10. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

    #10 14th May 2009, 15:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aron if you pick up a cheap one it will be rubbish! looking 200-300+ for a good one. then think insurance change aswell... not cheap in anyway.

    and you would have to declare any other engine mod too.......
    
    if you got a high milage one and rebuilt it, youll have the best engine you can get
11. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #11 14th May 2009, 15:51

    and a rebuild will cost a futune. an exhaust, induction anything like that will be nothing compared to the insurance increase of a 16v engine.
    
    its a bit of a bold statement saying its the best engine aswell
12. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

    #12 14th May 2009, 15:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aron and a rebuild will cost a futune. an exhaust, induction anything like that will be nothing compared to the insurance increase of a 16v engine. its a bit of a bold statement saying its the best engine aswell

    it will be like new, thats why say with a gearbox you will pay like £500 for a rebilt one....
    
    yeah insurance would hit but who actually declares that type of mod?
    
    also a good engine would cost about £300 to £400
13. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #13 14th May 2009, 16:08

    check out ebay and keep your eye on possible bargains mate. Just as long as the dont include the word "chip".
14. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #14 14th May 2009, 16:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djflipsaxo it will be like new, thats why say with a gearbox you will pay like £500 for a rebilt one.... yeah insurance would hit but who actually declares that type of mod? also a good engine would cost about £300 to £400

    who declares that type mod? id hope everyone declares engine changes and if they dont then they are complete retards!
    
    by saying a good engine costs that you are just proving my point... same with a gearbox is £500, your proving my fault...
15. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

    #15 14th May 2009, 16:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aron who declares that type mod? id hope everyone declares engine changes and if they dont then they are complete retards! by saying a good engine costs that you are just proving my point... same with a gearbox is £500, your proving my fault...

    well i dont have any type of mods but how many of the lad son here declare an induction kit etc etc??
    
    and look in for sale, theres a vtr engine tuned
16. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #16 14th May 2009, 16:14

    theres allot of people that declare induction kits and so they should.
    
    the point of this thread was cheap mods mate! not expensive engine changes!
17. djflipsaxo Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Dec 2005 Poole United Kingdom (England) Posts: 6410 Vts, Vtr, Furio..

    #17 14th May 2009, 16:43

    all i was doing was giving the guy an idea.
    he wants a fater engine, so i give him an alternative
    he may not realise he can actually get an engine transplant.
    
    its only ideas.
18. mischief Regular Poster Joined: Jan 2008 Hampshire Posts: 324 Wicked Red Vtr.

    #18 14th May 2009, 22:03

    all good and well people saying get a 16v but its insurance group 14 so for alot of people its quite expensive
19. liam-o Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 1346

    #19 14th May 2009, 22:12

    cheap mods are pointless, may aswell get the 20bhp "RACING CHIP" from ebay or a electric fan supercharger. if your not going to spend money on decent performance mods dont bother, it will be pointless.
    
    new induction kit
    manifold + exhaust system
    
    not cheap but first things to do
20. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #20 14th May 2009, 22:28

    Give the car a good service, get the car to run its best!
21. buttmunch Newbie Joined: May 2009 kent Posts: 9 saxo vtr

    #21 15th May 2009, 00:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by liam-o cheap mods are pointless, may aswell get the 20bhp "RACING CHIP" from ebay or a electric fan supercharger. if your not going to spend money on decent performance mods dont bother, it will be pointless. new induction kit manifold + exhaust system not cheap but first things to do

    thankyou and after having a good look around i relised this is the case instead in forking out a lil bit, decided on a janspeen stianless manifold, a remus backbox, induction kit of some sort and lowering 35mm. apprently upping bph between 40-50. not changing looks but anyone no how the original wheels will take the extra power? wanna keep the outside standard. this car is awesome for modding ive been running a 2.0L seat toledo and modding cost a fotune cos of lack of parts! this seems to be easy lol thanks for advice anymore would be cool k
22. buttmunch Newbie Joined: May 2009 kent Posts: 9 saxo vtr

    #22 15th May 2009, 00:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quick Give the car a good service, get the car to run its best!

    garage im buting from is doing a really good service plus replacing cambelt, fixing key fob and valeting whole car. thanks all good advice.
23. buttmunch Newbie Joined: May 2009 kent Posts: 9 saxo vtr

    #23 15th May 2009, 00:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aron cheap mods are not going to get you any noticable performance gains mate.

    thanks im spending a bit now to get the power im looking for this may end up being faster than my 2 litre toledo lol and i agree if i could of afforded the insurance i would of got the vts 16v lol but adrian flux are happy keeping the insurance the same even with the extra mods on this one! and also ppl who dont declare are idiots. thanks for ideas skint now so no mods after this for a while but any suggestions are good thanks k
24. user_32815 Established Member Joined: Apr 2009 Weedon,Northants Posts: 1080 Cammed VTR

    #24 15th May 2009, 11:52

    back box and manifold with an induction kit will NOT gain 40-50bhp, be lucky to tet above 10bhp!!!!!
25. matty1990vtr Newbie Joined: Oct 2008 wirral Posts: 14 2003 saxo vtr

    #25 15th May 2009, 14:15

    strip the car it will fly!!!!!!
26. mrjayt Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 HH Posts: 116 Vts, Impreza, 106, 306, Polo

    #26 15th May 2009, 14:32

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280346020111
    
    put a 16 valve head on it
27. cj_99 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2008 Huntingdon Posts: 3037 JC

    #27 15th May 2009, 14:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mrjayt http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=280346020111 put a 16 valve head on it

    stop telling people to do this you cant
28. mrjayt Infrequent Poster Joined: Oct 2008 HH Posts: 116 Vts, Impreza, 106, 306, Polo

    #28 15th May 2009, 15:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cj_99 stop telling people to do this you cant

    have you tried? the 1.6 vtr engine in the xara and c2 have a 16v head, and i dont see why it wouldnt be possible
29. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #29 15th May 2009, 15:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mrjayt and i dont see why it wouldnt be possible

    The vtr pistons dont have any form of allowance for the valves like the 16v pistons do.

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