camber on rear wheels

1. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

   #1 17th May 2009, 18:29

   hi, i got a proplem with the camber on the back wheel, all my mate when drivering behind me they say that there wheels camber away from the car, but when the car is still they look straight, the torsion bar is lowered arount 40 - 50 mm
   does anyone know what the probem is and can i sort it out
   
   cheers louie
2. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #2 17th May 2009, 18:35

   Could be the stub pins worn out. When they get really bad they move quite a bit. Feels like the winds catching the car all the time at higher speeds.
   
   Need either a rebuild £300 for a replacement rear beam.
3. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

   #3 17th May 2009, 18:38

   yes, when it raining the arse end it everywhere over the last 2 day the back and has step put a few times,
   so mate what ur saying seems bang on, how do i solve it
   
   cheers
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 17th May 2009, 18:43

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by louie_VTR yes, when it raining the arse end it everywhere over the last 2 day the back and has step put a few times, so mate what ur saying seems bang on, how do i solve it cheers

   
   Well they dont make replacement Stub pins anymore. Piggy123 does rear beam refurbs for £300 irc and they have stub pins machined specially for him.
   
   Your choices are either:
   
   1. Rebuild with Sam - £300
   2. Replacement rear beam off another car, though u risk the same happening in the near future it it isnt already the same. £100.
   
   Easy enough to fit aswell.
5. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

   #5 17th May 2009, 18:50

   okk mate cheers for help, is there any way i can check it be for i put a new one on
6. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #6 17th May 2009, 19:08

   Just have a look at it from the rear! if the wheels are angled like / \ then its probabaly the stub pins
   
   or
   
   / |
   
   
   etc
7. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

   #7 17th May 2009, 19:38

   na m8t mine camber the other way like \ /
8. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #8 17th May 2009, 19:41

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by louie_VTR na m8t mine camber the other way like \ /

   yeh, same principle though
9. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

   #9 17th May 2009, 19:45

   okk mate cheers for ur help
10. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #10 17th May 2009, 20:03

    jack the rear up and grab the wheel at 10 to 3 position, move back and forward and if theres any play in the wheel then the bearings are shot, the wheel should be solid
11. nath106 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 somerset Posts: 937 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye & 256bhp civic EG

    #11 17th May 2009, 20:05

    could it not be your trailing arm bushes?
12. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #12 17th May 2009, 22:21

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by db_sax Well they dont make replacement Stub pins anymore. Piggy123 does rear beam refurbs for £300 irc and they have stub pins machined specially for him. Your choices are either: 1. Rebuild with Sam - £300 2. Replacement rear beam off another car, though u risk the same happening in the near future it it isnt already the same. £100. Easy enough to fit aswell.

    3. See if Sam will get some stub pins made up to sell to you...
13. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #13 18th May 2009, 06:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 3. See if Sam will get some stub pins made up to sell to you...

    or williamsvts as i think hes making some that are more durable.
14. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #14 18th May 2009, 09:18

    i dont get how you wheels can camber in like \ /
    
    the only time i have seen a wheel camber like that was a damaged and bent trailing arm.
15. user_7096 Established Member Joined: Sep 2005 Market Bosworth Posts: 2482 106 XSi 1360cc

    #15 20th May 2009, 10:05

    If the wheel is out at the top ,it will be abent arm/ or hub mounting pin bent down possible from hitting a kerb,if it,s the hub pin normally the arm gets damaged aswell .If the wheel is in at the top it will be bearing/stub pins that are shot ok
16. vtcarl Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2006 telford, shropshire Posts: 968 E86 Z4 3.0 si coupe

    #16 20th May 2009, 10:12

    just get sam to put a refubed one on for you. does a bloody good job in my opinion.
17. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #17 20th May 2009, 10:44

    do really need a whole new beam. Sam is your best bet. legends mate.
18. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

    #18 20th May 2009, 11:00

    £300 for a refurb? shitttt..
    
    What are the repercussions if you ignore this
19. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #19 20th May 2009, 11:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jorge- £300 for a refurb? shitttt.. What are the repercussions if you ignore this

    bearing colapses and puts ecsess stress on the torsion bar
    
    in extreme cases the bar (or mor likely the bolt) may break and then the trailing arm may come free of the rest of the car (which would be bad)
20. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

    #20 20th May 2009, 21:55

    thanks for all your advise i get the car on the ramp the week end and have a look
    
    cheers fellas
21. GTJames Regular Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Edinburgh Posts: 345 Uber clean 1.1i

    #21 20th May 2009, 23:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AlexB in extreme cases the bar (or mor likely the bolt) may break and then the trailing arm may come free of the rest of the car "(which would be bad)"

    Understatment of the century mate lol. Im surei saw these pins for sale somewhere . Ill keep my eyes open and try and find out where i saw them for sale.
22. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

    #22 23rd May 2009, 19:32

    fellas cheers for all ur help car now sorted, both my hubs were f***ked on the rear, repalced then now everythink is perfect
    
    cheers
23. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

    #23 23rd May 2009, 20:24

    You replaced the hubs? or the beam? What did you replace?
24. louie_VTR Infrequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 herts Posts: 175 Saxo VTR Renault 5 Turbo

    #24 23rd May 2009, 22:20

    replace the hole rear beam mate had a rebuilt one in hes shed and he said i could have it for £150.
    i was gonna just replace the hubs but both hubs came to £200 so i wnt for the cheaper way
25. 1990tom Regular Poster Joined: May 2009 Posts: 414

    #25 30th May 2009, 07:53

    Can someone please pm me this Sam persons details please
26. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

    #26 30th May 2009, 08:52

    sam is piggy123 he posted on the last page