Raceland Coilover Suspension Kit??

26th May 2009, 13:28

As above really...but any one got them? what they ride like? Are they ant good? can get these for £148 wha do ya think?

26th May 2009, 13:42

as it is made by raceland i would imagine its pretty crap quality that doesnt quite fit right. i may be wrong though.

you have to imagine though that suspension is the difference between a safe car and an un-safe car as is the braking system so buy the best stuff you can afford.

26th May 2009, 13:50

Never thought of that! Good Advice!!! lol Thanks lol

26th May 2009, 13:56

buy cheap, buy twice

nuff said

26th May 2009, 14:06

Every one hates them but not many people have actaly tryed them!!

there is a guide on here to use spax shocks and they do the job not the best but you get what you pay for.. if you want cheap adjustable height then they are wicked used them for about 6months on mine and i love them, im using Blistein B4 shocks on mine and when there right down its a very bumpy ride but if your down 90odd mm its gunna be bumpy no matter what suspension you have!!

my mate has the GAZ self adjusting coil overs and they int no better than my racelands.. part from ge has adjustable shocks but dont really make much difference...

26th May 2009, 14:17

for the price, they are excellent and they are not going to kill you.

they are perfectly safe to use although they may not be the best for handling etc. if you want to go low then they are great.

i have been running them on my golf for over a year now without any issues.

most people who say they are crap havent even tried them.

26th May 2009, 14:30

tried them used them and hate them. just cheap rubbish. coilovers should not be half arsed. if your going to buy coilovers, buy descent stuff. If your going to use them above 60mm for normal driving only there is no point in them.

and qhatever you do, do not follow Pete's guide to make them lower.

26th May 2009, 14:37

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Originally Posted by Aron

tried them used them and hate them. just cheap rubbish. coilovers should not be half arsed. if your going to buy coilovers, buy descent stuff. If your going to use them above 60mm for normal driving only there is no point in them.

and qhatever you do, do not follow Pete's guide to make them lower.

can i just ask whats wrong with pete's guide? other than cutting the springs? if u have the kit already on surley its a improvement!

26th May 2009, 14:45

for a couple of hundred pounds more you could buy a decent coilover kit like Gaz rather than buy a cheap kit and trying to make it better with a few hundred pounds more.

The racelands are cheap for a reason. They use cheap parts. The springs and damping is too soft to safely run low, the coilovers units are very heavy so ruin unsprung weight...
Aside from being dangerous when the springs are coilbound, these do nothing to improve the ride. Something like a Spax -60mm kit will be vastly better.
Kev

26th May 2009, 15:32

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Originally Posted by blackvtrt

can i just ask whats wrong with pete's guide? other than cutting the springs? if u have the kit already on surley its a improvement!

I think you have answered that yourself

26th May 2009, 15:32

the springs are way to soft to be cut down anymore, its taking away alot of strength so will coilbound alot. then when it goes coilbound the next stress piont to move is the internal threads. then as soon as they go week the kit is useless and will move around.

The money you spend getting the springs professionaly cut(well as pro as spring cutting comes) and then the additional machining of dampers and new pans you will of spent the money that could get you some gaz coilovers.

The gaz seem a good design and alot more fail prove. i like the idea of them and you can prove those going forward, can easy run them with billie dampers where as you cannot on the racelands.

26th May 2009, 15:36

well said! totally agree with that!

i learnt the hard way buying cheap coilovers to start with but now all is good!

thanks to lee_vtr1 and aron!

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Originally Posted by Aron

the springs are way to soft to be cut down anymore, its taking away alot of strength so will coilbound alot. then when it goes coilbound the next stress piont to move is the internal threads. then as soon as they go week the kit is useless and will move around.

The money you spend getting the springs professionaly cut(well as pro as spring cutting comes) and then the additional machining of dampers and new pans you will of spent the money that could get you some gaz coilovers.

The gaz seem a good design and alot more fail prove. i like the idea of them and you can prove those going forward, can easy run them with billie dampers where as you cannot on the racelands.

26th May 2009, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Rossi86

well said! totally agree with that!

i learnt the hard way buying cheap coilovers to start with but now all is good!

thanks to lee_vtr1 and aron!

Happy with the ride now ?

26th May 2009, 15:38

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Originally Posted by Bickerton

Happy with the ride now ?

yes definately happy, hasn't banged once!

and to top it off its VERY LOW!

26th May 2009, 15:40

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Originally Posted by Rossi86

yes definately happy, hasn't banged once!

and to top it off its VERY LOW!

Nice!

With raceland coilover kits alot of people on 106oc used em with varying levels of success, the majority were very very very unhappy with them.
According to a friend on a vauxhall forum they seem to work well for them, mebbe just lil french cars they have issues with?

26th May 2009, 15:41

perfect example. started with a bad kit, took advise and has ended up with a great set up.

asking for advice before buying will save alot of money. do not buy cheap.

26th May 2009, 15:50

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Originally Posted by Aron

perfect example. started with a bad kit, took advise and has ended up with a great set up.

asking for advice before buying will save alot of money. do not buy cheap.

yes i learnt the hard way and trust me you end up spending more money than just buying a decent kit to start with.

any advice, speak to aron, willsy or lee_vtr1.

26th May 2009, 16:02

Thats ace lads... Gaz it is then lol any idea on price? i've got my 1.1 on G Max but i wanted somthin lower for my vtr and with my C2 VTS wheels it will be ideal if i can adjust the hight to suit.

26th May 2009, 18:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aron

the springs are way to soft to be cut down anymore, its taking away alot of strength so will coilbound alot. then when it goes coilbound the next stress piont to move is the internal threads. then as soon as they go week the kit is useless and will move around.

The money you spend getting the springs professionaly cut(well as pro as spring cutting comes) and then the additional machining of dampers and new pans you will of spent the money that could get you some gaz coilovers.

The gaz seem a good design and alot more fail prove. i like the idea of them and you can prove those going forward, can easy run them with billie dampers where as you cannot on the racelands.

wrong sorry but i run my racelands with blisteins b6's... was a straight replacement..

26th May 2009, 18:26

I looked into these as these were very cheap and i thought why.

A read on a few VW Gold forums that people were very impressed with them and could handle bends far better and could slam it. Even after a few months people were saying how good they were.

But in all fairness. A alarm bell should ring if coil covers are for sale that cheap. (Buy cheap, buy twice). 2 front springs of a well known make would cost aprox that much anyway.

26th May 2009, 18:40

I have them on mine, threw them on as a cheap quick job for a car show.
I expected them to be really bad but tbh there not too bad, they fit perfectly fine and you get go pretty low on them.

Mines a bit crashy would help if i had bumpstops back in though.

27th May 2009, 15:32

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Originally Posted by vtrlogan

wrong sorry but i run my racelands with blisteins b6's... was a straight replacement..

ok let me re-word, they wont work with descent upgraded billie. eg group N

if any thinks they will handle well then they have oversly never driven on a descent suspension set up

27th May 2009, 15:36

The B6 is a standard length damper and is not really designed to run very low. B8's and race ones are shortened to run low heights...

27th May 2009, 16:43

some reason i cant open the first page so hope i havent missed to much, the kit itself is what u shud expect for that price, problem is the spring is to soft and at fully lowered give no suspension. check out my link below, says alot about it but its not ideal asu still have a soft spring.