C20LET in a saxo ?

1. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

   #1 26th May 2009, 22:23

   Can you make a C20LET conversion on a saxo VTS ?
2. fossie Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2004 Spennymoor, United Kingdom (England) Posts: 3742 Saxo MK2 VTS

   #2 26th May 2009, 22:26

   Probably, anything can be done if you have deep pockets, would imagine it would cost alot of money tbh
3. sorted2 Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Cromer, Norfolk Posts: 137 Citroen Saxo Mk 1 VTR

   #3 26th May 2009, 22:27

   I'll dp it for a shed load of cash
4. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

   #4 26th May 2009, 22:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by fossie Probably, anything can be done if you have deep pockets, would imagine it would cost alot of money tbh

   yeah, might do, just had a look on ebay, 1k for 2.0 turbo, c20let, xe, f20 box, coscast head..
   Check
   Here
5. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #5 26th May 2009, 22:35

   c20let and xe are different engines. you can get them from about £600 up on the vaux forums.
   imo, would be better off turboing the vts lump for the money it will cost.
6. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

   #6 26th May 2009, 22:38

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by williamsvts c20let and xe are different engines. you can get them from about £600 up on the vaux forums. imo, would be better off turboing the vts lump for the money it will cost.

   so, im better off without the 2.0 engine and keep the 1.6 VTS, turbo it and change a few bits at the same price it would cost me to do the vaux conversion ?
7. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

   #7 26th May 2009, 22:41

   it would cost more to do the vaux conversion. you would need custom mounts and shafts made, then make a new gear linkage up. then the price of your ecu and engine on top, as you wouldnt be able to use the vaux ecu.
8. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

   #8 26th May 2009, 22:42

   Pretty much mate yea, would work out cheaper if anything to source a VTS engine and turbo it.

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9. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

   #9 26th May 2009, 22:43

   did the crazy turkish guy made his manifold custom or did he buy it from somewhere ? his work is amazing... got his saxo to 500bhp
10. user_33420 Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 birmingham Posts: 645 vw lupo gti

    #10 26th May 2009, 23:25

    how much all together for all that?
11. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #11 26th May 2009, 23:30

    i have no idea what soever probably alot
12. Ferg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup

    #12 26th May 2009, 23:40

    That would be really difficult ... But massive fair play if someone did it.
13. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #13 26th May 2009, 23:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ferg That would be really difficult ... But massive fair play if someone did it.

    i might ask my dad to buy me a low mileage VTS, and make it as a project.. keep it in a garage or something, then buy a little 1.4 to move around while the VTS is being done by time ..
    
    just a rough idea..
14. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #14 26th May 2009, 23:46

    How much have you got to spend andy?
15. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #15 26th May 2009, 23:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean_VTS How much have you got to spend andy?

    im just day dreaming mate.. lol you willing to help ?!
    ill get a job over the summer hopefully and buy either the 1.4 or the VTS, VTS will be hidden away from people's eyes and the 1.4 will be the future Andy Mobil
16. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #16 26th May 2009, 23:53

    If youve got the garage space to use then yea, if youve got the money to spend im game for it

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17. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #17 26th May 2009, 23:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean_VTS If youve got the garage space to use then yea, if youve got the money to spend im game for it

    My dad works for a guy with loads of residential homes, he maintains them and build them.. some houses have front and back carpark.. we can ask and use some of his space.. but it might be limited.. we'll be fine !
18. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #18 27th May 2009, 00:01

    need a big garage man, preferably a double to hold the car and the block tbh
19. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #19 27th May 2009, 00:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean_VTS need a big garage man, preferably a double to hold the car and the block tbh

    i ain't got a big garage mate.. we'll wait and see
20. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #20 27th May 2009, 00:03

    kk bud
21. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #21 27th May 2009, 00:12

    i was talking about this guys engine guys..
    
    
22. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #22 27th May 2009, 00:19

    i love that engine thats is the turkish vts yes?
    
    the power that thing creates is awesome if only i had 20k spare
23. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #23 27th May 2009, 00:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sparco_Tom i love that engine thats is the turkish vts yes? the power that thing creates is awesome if only i had 20k spare

    apparently is at 500bhp+ now, and yes, thats the turkish engine.. quite fast for a 1.6 saxo, if its a 1.6 anymore lol ..
24. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

    #24 27th May 2009, 00:28

    more likely to be a 1.8 turbo
25. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #25 27th May 2009, 08:37

    I've seen a LET engine in a Golf MK4 before so it has been done to other cars.
26. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #26 27th May 2009, 08:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mieran I've seen a LET engine in a Golf MK4 before so it has been done to other cars.

    
    Yea i know its been done before, just trying to hunt and see if its ever been done ona saxo or similar smaller car
27. Mieran Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719

    #27 27th May 2009, 08:50

    Corsa/Nova.
28. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #28 27th May 2009, 09:00

    Yea of corse, i meant saxo, 106, fiesta.
29. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #29 27th May 2009, 09:03

    cosworth YB in a fiesta, doubt the ford boys would put a LET in lol
30. Sean_VTSp Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Nov 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 5149 BMW 325ci ACS3, Mercedes Benz CLK.

    #30 27th May 2009, 09:11

    I was only using it as an example lol
31. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #31 27th May 2009, 10:31

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sean_VTS Yea of corse, i meant saxo, 106, fiesta.

    i saw a mr2 engine in a saxo, but the engine was moved in the back so its RWD, and a turboed engine
32. Tom5190 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Sep 2007 Someones Bumhole Posts: 5721 Mk2 16v Desire

    #32 27th May 2009, 10:37

    has the 206GTI engine ever been put in?
33. Ferg Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2007 Maidstone, Kent Posts: 4928 Clio 197 Cup

    #33 27th May 2009, 10:38

    There's been loads of rear engine conversations ~
    
    MR2 engines
    Ford Cosworth engines
    Honda Vtec engines ...
    
    I'd like to see a suitable replacement for 16v lump up front tbh ... Maybe VAG 1.8T.
    Obv weight is a huge factor ... Big heavy lump could destroy the handling characterisitcs of the car itself.
34. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #34 27th May 2009, 10:53

    it looks quite a big engine. I think you would need to do a lot of measuring before buying an engine. It will need to sit forward quite a bit due to the manifold and turbo, so the bulkhead may need redoing further back. You need to measure height and driveshaft position on a standard car, then see if you fit the vauxhall engine with the driveshafts in the same position whether you have enough clearance at the front..
    Custom mounts are the easy part
    Also look to see what the vauxhall driveshafts are like, are they hollow or solid?

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35. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #35 27th May 2009, 11:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing it looks quite a big engine. I think you would need to do a lot of measuring before buying an engine. It will need to sit forward quite a bit due to the manifold and turbo, so the bulkhead may need redoing further back. You need to measure height and driveshaft position on a standard car, then see if you fit the vauxhall engine with the driveshafts in the same position whether you have enough clearance at the front.. Custom mounts are the easy part Also look to see what the vauxhall driveshafts are like, are they hollow or solid?

    thx mate, i might stick with the VTS idea, sounds like loads of work need to be done and money to be spend..
36. williamsvts Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2006 northumberland Posts: 7693 pulsar gtir, mk4 astra sxi

    #36 27th May 2009, 11:25

    imo, when you are asking a question on how to do a conversion like this you dont have the ability to do it. the people that seem to do the conversions like this just seem to get on with it.

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37. Andy_VT Regular Poster Joined: Sep 2008 Southend-on-sea Posts: 302 Pass..

    #37 27th May 2009, 11:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by williamsvts imo, when you are asking a question on how to do a conversion like this you dont have the ability to do it. the people that seem to do the conversions like this just seem to get on with it.

    i was just asking to see if anyone done a conversion like this before, so i don't do the same thing like them..
38. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #38 27th May 2009, 13:49

    Its a straightforward job if you have the right skills. I know of a few peugeot's that have got Honda engines fitted. Probably looking at a grand or so to get the engine in (if it fits)
    But then you have to pay for all the extras...
    custom exhaust, modified driveshafts, loom, ecu