Can you put a vts head on a vtr???

1. djadzvtr Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Doncaster Posts: 749 vtr - 16v conversion y0!

   #1 27th May 2009, 15:29

   
   ive been told that you need a 16 valve head for a turbo convertion so im wondering if you can just change the head (ive been told you can but i ant got a clue myself!!
2. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #2 27th May 2009, 15:30

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by djadzvtr ive been told that you need a 16 valve head for a turbo convertion so im wondering if you can just change the head (ive been told you can but i ant got a clue myself!!

   There was a thread on this a day or so ago if you had searched.
   
   No you cant just bolt it on if staying OE on everything else.
   
   You also DONT need a vts head fo boost, you can do it on 8v.
3. djadzvtr Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Doncaster Posts: 749 vtr - 16v conversion y0!

   #3 27th May 2009, 15:35

   ...well thats what i thought .....i was bidding on a turbo kit for a 106 gti....the guy who was selling it said straight away i cant do it so just thought id ask...my friend had a vtr a few years ago and is telling me allsorts to get done ....unsure what is true or not tho...
4. paxo89 Frequent Poster Joined: Dec 2007 Watford Posts: 590 Boosted 16v VTR

   #4 27th May 2009, 15:40

   That kit you were bidding on probably came with a manifold, which is the reason why he's saying it won't work, because 8v and 16v manifolds have different port spacings

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5. djadzvtr Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Doncaster Posts: 749 vtr - 16v conversion y0!

   #5 27th May 2009, 15:52

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by paxo89 That kit you were bidding on probably came with a manifold, which is the reason why he's saying it won't work, because 8v and 16v manifolds have different port spacings

   makes sense like
   
   i dint ask him why it would'nt work ....he just seemed a bit adimante that it would'nt!
   
   So it can have a turbo??
6. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

   #6 27th May 2009, 16:00

   you can turbo an 8v, but 16v ones generally see more power
   
   if his kit is a 16v one it wont fit an 8v

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7. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #7 27th May 2009, 17:51

   Turbo the 8v mate!
8. nico_daniels Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Sailsbury, Wiltshire Posts: 117 Mk1 (99) Saxo VTR, Silver.

   #8 27th May 2009, 18:32

   i been told for a stage 3 turbo on my vtr 5000 notes!!
9. gouldy87 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3932

   #9 27th May 2009, 18:33

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by nico_daniels i been told for a stage 3 turbo on my vtr 5000 notes!!

   wtf is stage 3?
   
   lordy lordy!
10. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #10 27th May 2009, 18:43

    what is stage 3?
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 27th May 2009, 18:45

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS what is stage 3?

    it usually means the company are shit in my book.
    
    Pulling the wool over peoples eyes with the stage bollocks instead of listening and building a spec for the customers needs
12. evensteven L-plater Joined: Sep 2004 Great Yarmouth & Aberdeen Posts: 98

    #12 27th May 2009, 19:43

    Well said Ryan!
13. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

    #13 27th May 2009, 19:44

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan it usually means the company are shit in my book. Pulling the wool over peoples eyes with the stage bollocks instead of listening and building a spec for the customers needs

    true true boomting.
14. nico_daniels Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Sailsbury, Wiltshire Posts: 117 Mk1 (99) Saxo VTR, Silver.

    #14 28th May 2009, 10:20

    well stage 1 is like a bolt on kit, and stage 3 is like forged pistion, new head dump valve and that! Go to cituning.com thats what they said ova the phone.
15. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #15 28th May 2009, 10:33

    shituning
16. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #16 28th May 2009, 11:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS what is stage 3?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan it usually means the company are shit in my book. Pulling the wool over peoples eyes with the stage bollocks instead of listening and building a spec for the customers needs

    ****deletes stage 1 brake kit off site****
    
    
17. nico_daniels Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Sailsbury, Wiltshire Posts: 117 Mk1 (99) Saxo VTR, Silver.

    #17 28th May 2009, 13:30

    so wheres the best place to get a turbo from?
18. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #18 28th May 2009, 15:13

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nico_daniels so wheres the best place to get a turbo from?

    for all things boosted.
    
    GMC/DP
    
    Dp prob the bettrer for turbo, gmc supercharged
19. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #19 28th May 2009, 15:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KamRacing ****deletes stage 1 brake kit off site****

    lol bit different to an engine though. When we know for example different cam profiles will warrant different bits doing to the head etc.... depending on the overall build.
20. nico_daniels Infrequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Sailsbury, Wiltshire Posts: 117 Mk1 (99) Saxo VTR, Silver.

    #20 28th May 2009, 17:50

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan for all things boosted. GMC/DP Dp prob the bettrer for turbo, gmc supercharged

    ↲
    Whats gmc/dp?
21. KamRacing Saxperience Addict Joined: Nov 2006 A farm shed in Aylesbury Posts: 14916 Corolla AE86 Peugeot 205 B18C (in bits)

    #21 28th May 2009, 17:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan lol bit different to an engine though. When we know for example different cam profiles will warrant different bits doing to the head etc.... depending on the overall build.

    wait until you see my stage 1, 2 and 3 heads. Stage one is sandpapered, stage two dremeled until shiney, then stage three is hack all the metal out and make the ports as big as possible causing fuel dropout (rivers run fast, so more fuel in the engine)
    
    Kev

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