B&M Short Shift... Worth it

1. VTS_86 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 1546 Saxo VTR mk2

   #1 2nd June 2009, 11:43

   Are they really worth it as they are around the £100+ mark when you can get a shortshift from Kam or GMC at half the price.
2. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

   #2 2nd June 2009, 11:55

   Up to you. Most people would say they're the best, but it's whether it's worth almost £50 more to you.
3. VTS_86 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 1546 Saxo VTR mk2

   #3 2nd June 2009, 11:57

   I have no experience with shortshift so don't really know. If it is better build quality and feels better then why not spend the extra money.
4. user_25706 Established Member Joined: Jul 2008 Taunton, Somerset Posts: 1182 Millenium Falcon

   #4 2nd June 2009, 12:03

   Exactly, that's what most people say.
   
   I've heard bad things about other Compbrake products, and the reliabiliy or their machining, and the griffiths engineering is a slightly different type to the other two.
   
   With the B&M you get quality, and the best product. It's similar to the 4-2-1 Manifold debate. Do you pay £150 for a Raceland or £300 for basically the same thing, but much better quality Supersprint version?
   
   Personally I'd say either go for the GE one or the B&M, but that's just my personal choice.
5. user_13958 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 3068

   #5 2nd June 2009, 12:12

   I have a B&M and i think its great! Have a look around i got mine of ebay brand new for £50!
   
   Apparently the Compbrake ones can let your gearstick be pushed though as there is only 2 grub screws holding it in place!?!?
   
   And there was a big debate about the GE ones and quite alot of people claimed they damaged syncros!?!?
   
   Just reflecting on what ive read that made me choose the B&M, not going to argue with anyone i only have expirience with the B&M but i would rate it!
6. jsdvtr Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 morecambe Posts: 4286 2003 vtr/s

   #6 2nd June 2009, 12:13

   Ive got a ge and for £20 its very good value and does its job, depends how picky you are and how much money you have got to spend on certain things on your car. See you could spend £100 on b+m or spend £20 and have £80 to go towards something else.
7. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

   #7 2nd June 2009, 12:41

   Any shortshifter is likely to do more damage to the synchros as your effectively multiplying the torque of your throw each time.
   
   Ive got a GE one and alloy linkages, does the job fine
8. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

   #8 2nd June 2009, 12:48

   I have a B&M in the VTS and a GE Quickshift in the VTR.
   
   Ge one feels better than standard but still crap. The B&M is in a different class altogether!
9. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

   #9 2nd June 2009, 12:49

   I have a B&M, I love it, bodged the standard knob on it too so it looks the same
10. VTS_86 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 1546 Saxo VTR mk2

    #10 2nd June 2009, 13:03

    Looks like the B&M then. Are they still available. Might get one done before FCS if I can get one in time.
11. VTS_86 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 1546 Saxo VTR mk2

    #11 2nd June 2009, 13:07

    Would this be the one to get then and is this site ok or is POTN better.
    
    http://www.rtecshop.com/index.php?p=...roduct_id=2502
12. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #12 2nd June 2009, 13:11

    ge is well worth the money they cost.
    
    I have a b&m now.
    
    Wouldnt say its worth £100 tbh
    But does feel slightly better then the GE
13. craig180p Yorkshire Joined: Dec 2005 West Yorkshire Posts: 31079 1989 Golf GTi Clipper

    #13 2nd June 2009, 13:12

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Steve_VTS ge is well worth the money they cost. I have a b&m now. Wouldnt say its worth £100 tbh But does feel slightly better then the GE

    There is a massive difference between th eGE in my VTR and the B&M in my VTS
    
    I'd say it was well worth the extra
14. VTS_86 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 1546 Saxo VTR mk2

    #14 2nd June 2009, 13:14

    saxo180 - Where did you get your B&M one from and how long will it take to fit.
15. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

    #15 2nd June 2009, 15:30

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by VTS_86 saxo180 - Where did you get your B&M one from and how long will it take to fit.

    I couldnt tell you the difference between a spanner and a screwdriver, and i fitted it in under an hour.
    
    jack the car up, put it on stands, remove the heat sheild on the exhaust, I didnt even take the exhaust off, then undo the bolt that attaches to the gear stick
    
    back in the car, pull off the gator, centre console screw, take that out, undo the 4 bolts holding it down, and remove.
    
    same in reverse to fit.
16. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #16 2nd June 2009, 15:32

    can fit a b&m on the road without jacking the car up
17. user_28873 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Nov 2008 Derby Posts: 3619 Mk2 VTS

    #17 2nd June 2009, 15:33

    I thought that, but it made more sense to do it under the car
18. Steve Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Mar 2005 Newcastle Upon Tyne Posts: 19910 CW Honda Integra DC5

    #18 2nd June 2009, 15:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jorge- I thought that, but it made more sense to do it under the car

    its fiddly tbh but certainly do able.
19. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #19 3rd June 2009, 00:29

    i have both a b&m and ge with X sport linkages, its like a matchbox size to shift from 1st to 5th lol and its tight as hell u can barely wobble my shifter.
20. TU-Tuning Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: May 2006 Bristol Posts: 16575 JP4urio, 306 DTurbo SportShed

    #20 3rd June 2009, 01:18

    Mate that will royally fudge your box over lol
21. E3D Established Member Joined: Aug 2007 Tunbridge Wells Posts: 1465 Furio 1.4 2002

    #21 3rd June 2009, 01:34

    no it wont its fine, i had it like that for 2 years no problems. why would it..
22. VTS_86 Established Member Joined: Jul 2007 Bournemouth Posts: 1546 Saxo VTR mk2

    #22 3rd June 2009, 08:35

    Just ordered my B&M from potn. Should be a good bit of kit accorded to a few people on here.
23. Jimmy-Boy Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2006 Suffolk Posts: 7551 N/A 200bhp+ per ton 106 gti

    #23 3rd June 2009, 13:47

    have a B&m in mine so much more solid every gear can be placed with ease and speed.
24. user_3656 Saxperience Addict Joined: Aug 2004 Herts. N/W London Posts: 13578 Project MK4 MoreDoor

    #24 3rd June 2009, 21:07

    How much did it cost you from POTN mate?