meshing lower bumper

1. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

   #1 3rd June 2009, 19:07

   hi all just done a search on this and most of the saxos ive seen with the lower bumper meshed looks really good.
   i have a meshed grill so nowb want to mesh the lower bumper.
   just 2 questions
   how would i go about removing the slats and does it leave a mark?
   or
   if i keep the slats in and just put mesh behind it would the mesh still be noticable.
   thanks
2. Matty_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2007 Darlington/Newcastle Posts: 2609 Saxo VTS / Twingo RS133

   #2 3rd June 2009, 19:13

   there is 3 ways of doing this..
   
   when you cut out the slats it will leave holes across the bumper, like so:
   
   
   
   Then you can either mesh it right at the front so it hides the holes, you can do this by getting some mesh bending it so it fits in then use a sealant such as tiger seal to secure it.
   
   looks like this:
   
   
   Or you can take it to a body shop and get the holes filled up and sprayed and mesh place the mesh at the back (imo this is the best option but most expensive)
   
   looks like this:
   
   
   Or you can buy a grill insert to place in it. Available from streamline via e-mail.
   
   looks like this:
   
   
   (I hope people don't mind me using their pictures, if so let me know an I'll remove them)
3. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

   #3 3rd June 2009, 20:02

   thanks very much mate everything i needed to no in one post lol.
   i quite like the 2nd picture with the mesh hiding the holes, sticks out a lot better than having the mesh right at the back.
   i was looking at the wide mouth inserts but the only ones i have found were in carbon fibre and a little expensive.
   thanks again mate very helpfull
4. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #4 3rd June 2009, 20:06

   streamline who make the carbon fibre ones for £110 also make plastic ones for £65 but they don't advertise them just email them and they wills end you one i was gonna get a plastic insert but im going euro so im smoothing the widemouth out and respraying the bumper to make it smoother and look more flush
5. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

   #5 3rd June 2009, 20:09

   great thought they only had the ones they had on ebay.
   will decide between meshing or the insert and will get in touch if i decide to go for the insert.
   cheers mate
6. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #6 3rd June 2009, 20:20

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by ldavies great thought they only had the ones they had on ebay. will decide between meshing or the insert and will get in touch if i decide to go for the insert. cheers mate

   yea even on there website them dont advertise them im not sure why and IMO they are a complete rip off on the carbon fibre products even £65 for a bit of unpainted plastic is a rip off but people buy them
7. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

   #7 3rd June 2009, 20:38

   is there anyone else that does them or is a case of egay?
8. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

   #8 3rd June 2009, 20:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by saxo_90 is there anyone else that does them or is a case of egay?

   i think the only place you can get them is from streamline which yes you can get off ebay off there ebay shop or just go to there website from as far as i no thats the only people i no who do them but if you look around you can find places to spray bumpers for about £60-70 and if you do the prep work your self ie fibre glass and filler it over then sand it down then all you have to get done is the spraying so can work out just as cheap to make it all smooth and flush rather than using an insert

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9. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

   #9 3rd June 2009, 20:50

   cheers mate
   beceause i have a silver sax i'm loving the third one and i like it how it has been left unmeshed, something a bit different imop
10. rudeboiross Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2008 Camberley/Sandhurst Posts: 367 1.1 SX

    #10 3rd June 2009, 20:50

    is the first option easy to do? looks good after?
11. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #11 3rd June 2009, 20:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_90 cheers mate beceause i have a silver sax i'm loving the third one and i like it how it has been left unmeshed, something a bit different imop

    yea the silver one with a black insert does look lush lol i do like the inserts but some one pointed out if im going euro then i really need to have it smooth so i cant really use one and yea im not gonna put any mesh behind if i do it will only will black mesh so hopefully it wont be noticeable im just worrid about stone and stuff damaging my radiator
12. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #12 3rd June 2009, 20:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rudeboiross is the first option easy to do? looks good after?

    the first is by far the cheapest but i can see it being hard to get the mesh bent right with out completely bending the mesh i dunno ive never done it but it dose look hard to get it looking good
13. Matty_VTR Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Sep 2007 Darlington/Newcastle Posts: 2609 Saxo VTS / Twingo RS133

    #13 3rd June 2009, 20:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jeffchiz yea the silver one with a black insert does look lush lol i do like the inserts but some one pointed out if im going euro then i really need to have it smooth so i cant really use one and yea im not gonna put any mesh behind if i do it will only will black mesh so hopefully it wont be noticeable im just worrid about stone and stuff damaging my radiator

    I think that was me who pointed that out
    
    The insert is a good cheap option but IMO getting it filled and sprayed is defiantly the best option. I just need to get a VTS/GTi twin fan set up for mine now.
14. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #14 3rd June 2009, 21:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Matty_VTR I think that was me who pointed that out The insert is a good cheap option but IMO getting it filled and sprayed is defiantly the best option. I just need to get a VTS/GTi twin fan set up for mine now.

    lol cheers for pointing it out lol i should be gettin my firbe glass tomorrow to start on it
15. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #15 3rd June 2009, 21:22

    how much damage could be done and would vts fans be any protection?
    
    and does anyone have pictures of the fans and can you wire them up on a furio, not for performance just for looks?
    
    sorry about the amount of questions lol
16. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #16 3rd June 2009, 21:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_90 how much damage could be done and would vts fans be any protection? and does anyone have pictures of the fans and can you wire them up on a furio, not for performance just for looks? sorry about the amount of questions lol

    the fins on radiators are really easy to bend and just get one stone that hits it hard enough would put a hole in the radiator then it'll piss coolant everywhere lol
17. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #17 3rd June 2009, 21:43

    shit i pure liked the the look of unmeshed but dont want to compromise the reliability of it
    would maybe do a matt black grill then and place it as far back as i could so it would still have the unmeshed look, struggling for ideas
18. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #18 3rd June 2009, 22:05

    even though im the one who said it can damage your radiator ive been going around fro ages with no mesh behind it and im gonna risk it would take alot to put a hole in it tbh
19. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #19 3rd June 2009, 22:11

    yeah for the looks alone its worth it
    glad someone else likes the unmeshed look
20. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #20 3rd June 2009, 22:59

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saxo_90 yeah for the looks alone its worth it glad someone else likes the unmeshed look

    well as im going euro its a big no no to mesh lol like for the grille instead of just taking out the black insert then putting mesh behind im gonna have to cut out chevrons and fibreglass it but will look good when done i hope

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21. user_34201 Frequent Poster Joined: May 2009 Skelmersdale Posts: 910 BMW E92 320D Mk2 Golf 1.8T, Triumph Spitfire 1500

    #21 4th June 2009, 01:34

    dont be fooled by the pictures thou it looks good on them cars coz of the colour of the car and because its clean, depends on colour of car, u dnt want bright mesh on dark car (or on any car in my opinion) but dnt go straight off them pictures, the bumpers may be different have more trim on bottom etc
22. user_27068 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 York Posts: 2254 Ibiza Bocanegra 1.4TSI DSG

    #22 4th June 2009, 01:48

    have you thought about cutting out the vertical slats in the bumber and just leaving the bar along the middle?
23. ldavies Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Driving my GTI Posts: 2659 Boosted 106 GTI 16V Supercharged

    #23 4th June 2009, 14:55

    wouldnt you still see holes if you just took the slats out and left the one that goes across.
24. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #24 4th June 2009, 15:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Llardy have you thought about cutting out the vertical slats in the bumber and just leaving the bar along the middle?

    that can actually look quite nice i was thinking of doing it to mine so when i modify the grille it will all match like this
    
25. user_27150 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Glasgow Posts: 1452 Saxo VTR

    #25 4th June 2009, 18:26

    i think the picture above looks better with it because it has the foglights filled in which is more euro aswell, i thought about leaving the bar along the middle but i'm still drawn to the unmeshed widemouth look. just need to find out if anyone has fiitted vts fans on to a furio before?
    
    i like the look of the fans sitting in the space and then you can also colour them if it suits what your going for
26. user_32315 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2009 Uppingham, Rutland Posts: 9569 mk1 JP4'd VTR, '16 Fabia Monte Carlo

    #26 4th June 2009, 21:35

    yea im still going fro the full wide mouth, well its too late now ive already hacked it all away lol plus ive got the smiley later grille i dont like that grille that comes with the earlier mk1 vtr's, im smoothing over my fogs tho should be pretty easy
27. user_36702 Regular Poster Joined: Aug 2009 Blaze'nSmoke (Basingstoke) Posts: 292 Saxo VTR

    #27 1st December 2010, 16:55

    They look cool, I wanna do this on my MK2
28. lilbenchy9192 Frequent Poster Joined: Jul 2010 Swindon Posts: 943 Renault clio dynamique tomtom 1.2

    #28 14th December 2010, 14:16

    they cover this in the haynes extreme manual, if u cut the slats out it does leave a hole, but if u then cut the lip off u can bring the grill to the front of the slat holes so it sits about half inch into the bumper. looks awsome and its so easy to do cus u ent gotta shape the mesh or buy anything special. just a few self tappers