Changing 5th gear

1. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #1 2nd July 2009, 23:22

   Ive read this guy write this a few times, and wondered if anyone can explain abit more. Basically buy an S1 Rallye Box then put a VTR 5th on for the economy.
   
   The way i understand it is 5th bolts onto the box as if its like an extension and therefore can be done on the car?
   
   

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by menmen Take an S1 box and replace the 5th gear with a diesel or VTR one. The 5th gear is in a separate casing, you can do that even on car

   http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...6&postcount=15
   
   Any more explanation?
   
   cheers
2. user_15989 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: May 2007 Posts: 4857

   #2 2nd July 2009, 23:39

   Yes you can swap fifth gears as there literally stuck on the back of the box. But have a good think about it before you do as its a fruitless thing to do. The S1 rally box is that low that first on most engines is next to useless. Then with a massive gap to 5th it becomes useless apart from chugging motorway. Even then as you have a low final drive it still does not work out that great. Then you end up firth for the most part a 3 speed box if your trying to drive fast. If you have a stock VTS for example you would be best just to use a VTS box.

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3. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #3 3rd July 2009, 00:18

   Cheers for clearing that up.
   
   Got a vtr box on the new car btw, but when i had my old car, i regulary changed form 3rd to 5th on the vts box, for just saving fuel.
   
   If i did the vtr 5th on the S1 rallye box then i wouldnt be using it for any accelaration but just genuine toodling about from 30mph upwards.
   
   Maybe not a VTR 5th but a VTS one so it isnt such a huge gap.
   
   If i was to go through with this, is it simply just unbolt and bolt on the vts 5th etc? Simple job or anything i need to know or look out for?
   
   cheers
4. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #4 3rd July 2009, 20:23

   Right i took the end casing off a gearbox, i guess its the setup on the right as the lefthandside ones are gonna be inline with the flywheel etc.
   
   So do i take the assembly on the right off, and replace it?
   
   
   
   
5. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #5 3rd July 2009, 23:04

   Bump, anyone know?
6. axgt16v Newbie Joined: Dec 2003 Kropswolde Netherlands Posts: 23 Ax16v

   #6 4th July 2009, 01:11

   Here you go:
   http://www.suzukituning.com/PSA/MA5%..._category_id=2

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7. Mochachino Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Nov 2007 Guantanamo Bay Posts: 28700 oyster card

   #7 4th July 2009, 01:13

   Genious, thanks mate!