News : cant bloody wait !

1. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

   #1 6th July 2009, 22:19

   16v 63000 miles
   42mm bike bodies on sandy brown inlet
   Innovate Lc-1 wideband controller with display
   Catcam 708
   Pred ecu
   13 row Mocal oil cooler with thermostatic sandwich plate
   4-2-1 raceland manifold
   2” pugsport
   
   
   Andy is fitting this in the next week (well most of it) cant bloody wait !!
   What sort of Ball Park figure we expecting?
   Is anyone else running this set up ?
2. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #2 6th July 2009, 22:27

   170 brake? should be a laugh anyway!
3. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #3 6th July 2009, 22:28

   I would think it's be between 160-170 depending on the rollers
4. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

   #4 6th July 2009, 22:30

   well im hoping for around that figure but not too fused as long as it shifts and obviously sound the bollocks too gonna make me grin from ear to ear !
5. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #5 6th July 2009, 22:31

   you should smile, tb's sound the sex
6. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

   #6 6th July 2009, 22:32

   ah raunchz andy had said that you have a very similar set up but couldnt remember what figure you made did you ever get yours on the rollers ?
   
   cheers matt
7. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

   #7 6th July 2009, 22:34

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by LeeM you should smile, tb's sound the sex

   never actually heard them apart from in videos should be good to hear the real thing ! you ever been in a 16v with bodies ?
8. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

   #8 6th July 2009, 22:44

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by kirby351 ah raunchz andy had said that you have a very similar set up but couldnt remember what figure you made did you ever get yours on the rollers ? cheers matt

   No, havnt got it on yet.
   I'm going to get it on soon as i'm slowly getting more air to the bodies so needs the fuel map tweaked - means more bhp!
   
   The sounds is awesome!! You'll love it!
9. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

   #9 6th July 2009, 22:47

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by raunchz No, havnt got it on yet. I'm going to get it on soon as i'm slowly getting more air to the bodies so needs the fuel map tweaked - means more bhp! The sounds is awesome!! You'll love it!

   i know mate every one keeps saying how good it will be im proper happy !!
   how does it drive matey pull like a train ?
10. raunchz Saxperience Addict Joined: Jul 2005 Solihull / Bournemouth Posts: 14233 2015 Lapiz Blue Golf R

    #10 6th July 2009, 22:49

    Pulls like a train when it gets there with my gearbox - is awesome though!! Just makes me want to shed some weight from the car, shorter gearbox and enjoy!!
11. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #11 6th July 2009, 22:58

    160-165.
    
    170 if the rollers are being kind
12. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #12 6th July 2009, 23:08

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by raunchz Pulls like a train when it gets there with my gearbox - is awesome though!! Just makes me want to shed some weight from the car, shorter gearbox and enjoy!!

    Thought you had an s2 rallye box ? whats up with that i currently have a vtr box which is soon hopefully going to be changed !
13. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #13 6th July 2009, 23:21

    Do you have a 106 or a saxo?
    
    That's a nice spec.you won't be dissapointed with it but you do definately need to change that vtr box.
14. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #14 6th July 2009, 23:24

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by makaveli144 Do you have a 106 or a saxo? That's a nice spec.you won't be dissapointed with it but you do definately need to change that vtr box.

    got a 106 mate the car in the pic is my old car. cant seem to fina any s2/s1 rallye boxes any where or even a xsi box any idea where i could source a good cheap one ?
    
    cheers
    matt
15. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #15 6th July 2009, 23:30

    No idea. I still have the vts box on mine but I'm starting to think I need a box with shorter ratios.So your going to fin the vtr box a bugger.
    
    My setup is very similar to what yours is going to be btw.
16. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #16 6th July 2009, 23:33

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by makaveli144 No idea. I still have the vts box on mine but I'm starting to think I need a box with shorter ratios.So your going to fin the vtr box a bugger. My setup is very similar to what yours is going to be btw.

    ah sound mate what cams you going for ? i have a gti box in the garage but have no idea wether its any good or not so could try that but waste ot time if its fooked may just source a nice short box of ebay !
17. nath106 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 somerset Posts: 937 16v ITB'd powered S1 Rallye & 256bhp civic EG

    #17 6th July 2009, 23:40

    awsome stuff, id be excited too
    
    may be worth getting a diff though with that much power. i spin my wheels a fair bit as it is with only 143bhp
18. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #18 6th July 2009, 23:42

    I have 708s at the minute and I am tempted to go wilder but it doesn't really seem worth it for the extra money.
    
    I do recommend a shorter box,all my power is high up in the rev range so would be better if I could get to those revs a bit quicker.
19. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #19 6th July 2009, 23:46

    s1/1.4xsi boxes fetch a premium these days as alot are fooked/wanted for track toys.
    
    I have a diffed xsi box coming my way to replace my diffed s2 box, + a spare XSI box sitting in the garage lol!
    
    VTR box isnt something id be running thats for sure, the box is one of the key comoponents of a good NA set up, even if the MA gear clusters are a bit shit in general
    
    Something people should note though the boxes are NOT shorter ratios, they run the same gear cluser as all sports boxes, but have a different final drive. The rev drops between gears is the same etc..
20. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #20 6th July 2009, 23:47

    nath 106- yea been thinking about it but i may only go on the track 1 a year so mabey oth worth it for an every day car !
    
    makaveli- na your right mate i wouldnt spend the extra cash just for an other 20bhp or so not for the amount !
    and defo going to get a better box is the xsi box the shortest ? any recomendations ?
    
    cheers matt
21. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #21 6th July 2009, 23:48

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan s1/1.4xsi boxes fetch a premium these days as alot are fooked/wanted for track toys. I have a diffed xsi box coming my way to replace my diffed s2 box, + a spare XSI box sitting in the garage lol! VTR box isnt something id be running thats for sure, the box is one of the key comoponents of a good NA set up, even if the MA gear clusters are a bit shit in general Something people should note though the boxes are NOT shorter ratios, they run the same gear cluser as all sports boxes, but have a different final drive. The rev drops between gears is the same etc..

    
    could you sort me out with a box ryan ? a i have the monies waiting .... and yes my bad i did know that lol
22. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #22 6th July 2009, 23:50

    Not selling anything atm, till ive tested the car with the diffed XSI box over my diffed S2 one.
    
    The diffed XSI one wont be for sale if I like it thats for sure
23. makaveli144 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Burton Posts: 3661 Alfa Romeo GT

    #23 6th July 2009, 23:51

    The s1 is the shortest I think,obviously if you do a lot of motorway miles you don't want the box too short.
    
    It's easy to say that but this horsepower thing is addictive lol.
    
    I haven't got a diff and I don't have a major problem spinning the wheels.
24. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #24 6th July 2009, 23:52

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan Not selling anything atm, till ive tested the car with the diffed XSI box over my diffed S2 one. The diffed XSI one wont be for sale if I like it thats for sure

    I ment the spare one you have in the garage that would be great mate if your willing to sell ? can pm me a price if you want mate ?
25. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #25 6th July 2009, 23:53

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by makaveli144 The s1 is the shortest I think,obviously if you do a lot of motorway miles you don't want the box too short.

    The s1 will give the lowest theoretical top speeds, but will give in theory the best in gear performances.
    
    And thus the worst MPG in relation to other final drives on the same gear cluster.
26. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #26 6th July 2009, 23:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kirby351 I ment the spare one you have in the garage that would be great mate if your willing to sell ? can pm me a price if you want mate ?

    Liked gold dust so not getting rid till im 100% sure the diffed box is an XSI one, else ill be chucking a diff in this box to.
    
    Sit on rallye reg, get an xsi box which isnt in the best of nick for like £50 and then buy an ATB for it
27. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #27 7th July 2009, 00:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ryan The s1 will give the lowest theoretical top speeds, but will give in theory the best in gear performances. And thus the worst MPG in relation to other final drives on the same gear cluster.

    well will be best if i could get a xsi box or a s2 rallye by the sounds of things !
    (straight to ebay)
28. Ryanp Super Moderator Joined: Feb 2004 Tonbridge United Kingdom (England) Posts: 38236 Vtr, 172, throttle bodied track slut

    #28 7th July 2009, 00:04

    ebay is shit for boxes these days, lots of bullshit.
    
    Rallye reg is the best bet in most cases.
    
    S2 rallye boxes are nice, in my case I dont need the theoretical top end of 160 with 8.5k rev limit lol!
    
    1.4xsi's are the current box of choice for many instead of the s1 box
29. Barry123 Saxperience Hardcore! Joined: Oct 2005 Aycliffe Posts: 32205 Saxo VTS

    #29 7th July 2009, 00:25

    165 maybe... but I wouldn't worry too much... it doesn't tell you anything...the mid range will be soooo much better.
30. kirby351 Infrequent Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 129 silver 106 gti

    #30 7th July 2009, 18:55

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by adsayer 165 maybe... but I wouldn't worry too much... it doesn't tell you anything...the mid range will be soooo much better.

    thats exactly what i been thinking mate !
    
    and ryan let me know on you xsi box and i will keep looking on rallye reg cheers!
    
    oh and i have a spare set of the gsxr 1000 bodies if any one wants them ?