No back box...... illegal?

1. vtr_immy Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2009 london Posts: 322 wicked red furio 2000

   #1 7th July 2009, 19:12

   Is it illegal to drive with no back box as i just bought my car and it has a rusted exhaust and it just fell off, will get it sorted, but dont get paid till the weekend. Cheers for any replys
2. Sparco_Tom Saxperience Addict Joined: Jan 2007 Aylesbury, Bucks Posts: 12836 Yeaaahh Fiesta

   #2 7th July 2009, 19:14

   only if the noise is excessive
3. York1366 Established Member Joined: Jan 2009 Louth/Lincolnshire Posts: 1540 Stage 4.5 Litchfield 725bhp R35 GTR

   #3 7th July 2009, 19:14

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by vtr_immy Is it illegal to drive with no back box as i just bought my car and it has a rusted exhaust and it just fell off, will get it sorted, but dont get paid till the weekend. Cheers for any replys

   yeah would fail emmissions plus be stupidly loud.
4. claff Frequent Poster Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 755

   #4 7th July 2009, 19:15

   it is illegal if its too noisey which it probably will be if you have no backbox. nothing serious though, the police will just give you an order telling you to replace it which youre going to do anyway.
   
   just dip the clutch when you see police and should be fine
5. Lewis1600 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Apr 2009 Los Anglesey Posts: 3416 Ibiza Sport TDI / MK1 VTS

   #5 7th July 2009, 19:23

   Police tend not to do anything.. Unless your driving like an idiot... Just explain the situation to them... and they should be fine. that's what I did.. Mine fell off the first night I ever drove it..
6. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #6 7th July 2009, 20:51

   will probably be too loud and im sure theres a mot reg that says exhaust gasses must exit from the back/side rather than underneath
7. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

   #7 7th July 2009, 20:52

   Technically it's illegal to drive any car without the same number of silencers that it left the factory with, so yes it is illegal.
8. RichM Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Plymouth Posts: 1871 Saxo VTR MK2 '01 Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch '60

   #8 7th July 2009, 22:08

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by col101 Technically it's illegal to drive any car without the same number of silencers that it left the factory with, so yes it is illegal.

   So what if your car originally had a mid silencer on the centre pipe but changed it for a straight through(assuming its got a cat in manifold and declared on insurance), is that illegal?
9. vtr_immy Regular Poster Joined: Feb 2009 london Posts: 322 wicked red furio 2000

   #9 7th July 2009, 23:01

   Cheers guys, yeh its pretty loud it was this 1 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Saxo-Sportex-E...lenotsupported i thought it was a crappy unbranded back box but turns out it was 100 quid lol. However it was very drowning. Do you think if i buy a standard silencer and fit a decat pipe it, it would be very loud or nice tone with the silencer on? Thanks
10. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #10 8th July 2009, 06:57

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichM So what if your car originally had a mid silencer on the centre pipe but changed it for a straight through(assuming its got a cat in manifold and declared on insurance), is that illegal?

    Sure is! It's up to the MOTtester (or local policeman) to know that there should be a silencer there, but tbh it's fairly obvious where they should be. It is one of the rules that has become lax over the last few years
11. RichM Established Member Joined: Oct 2007 Plymouth Posts: 1871 Saxo VTR MK2 '01 Vauxhall Astra Sport Hatch '60

    #11 8th July 2009, 10:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Sure is! It's up to the MOTtester (or local policeman) to know that there should be a silencer there, but tbh it's fairly obvious where they should be. It is one of the rules that has become lax over the last few years

    Wow thats stupid, never knew that lol.
12. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #12 8th July 2009, 10:54

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Technically it's illegal to drive any car without the same number of silencers that it left the factory with, so yes it is illegal.

    where have you go that one from?
    
    we were told by a traffic officer that the only regulations are the MOT ones regarding emissions then the gases must not exit the system before the end and meet noise regulations. so you could run one box in the center and no rear box but aslong as its meets noise levels it is legal
13. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #13 8th July 2009, 21:49

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aron where have you go that one from?

    Admitedly I'm a few years out of date, but that's how it was when I was doing MOT tests.
    Personally I'd never fail a car for having a straight through but always would for a missing back box.
    I'll see if I can find my old copy of the testers handbook and scan some usefull stuff.
14. redsaxo22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 lanark Posts: 108 saxo vtr 99,mgf 2001,saxo forte,vaux corsa,cant fi

    #14 9th July 2009, 13:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM will probably be too loud and im sure theres a mot reg that says exhaust gasses must exit from the back/side rather than underneath

    beat me too it. lol.
15. chinkostu Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Aug 2008 The wrong carpark Posts: 5152 Xantia 1.9TD

    #15 10th July 2009, 15:49

    My punto's exhaust rusted and fell off.
    
    infront of a pub of rowdy drunk chavs mind
    
    :-/
    
    regardless, i drove it for a few days like that giggling at the silly noise, never got stopped