Engine confusion

1. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #1 9th July 2009, 15:14

   im a little confused, i had a look in the FAQ
   
   but i have just bought an X reg saxo VTR but it DEFFO has the 98 BHP engine
   but reading the forum they was only used from 2001?
   
   anybody shed some light?
2. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

   #2 9th July 2009, 15:19

   how do you know it is defiently the 98bhp engine?
3. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #3 9th July 2009, 15:20

   3 plus ECU
   compared pistures from here..
   
   same air intake as the 98HP model
4. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

   #4 9th July 2009, 15:22

   has someone else fitted it? have you checked date of your vehicle reg on v5?
5. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #5 9th July 2009, 15:22

   yep no engines been changed.. its had one owner who was a oldish lady
6. redsaxo22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 lanark Posts: 108 saxo vtr 99,mgf 2001,saxo forte,vaux corsa,cant fi

   #6 9th July 2009, 15:23

   where is the dipstick? is it in the middle of the manifold or to the right? i have a t plate vtr with a silvertop but is still mk1 engine. airbox is also different. there are 3 types of engine.
   
   mk1 blacktop 90hp, single plug ecu, 97-99
   mk1silvertop 90hp, single plug ecu, 99-2000
   mk2 silvertop 98hp. 3 plug ecu, 2000-2003
   
   i believe your engine is mk1 silvertop . i may be wrong about the above dates though.
7. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #7 9th July 2009, 15:23

   my v5 show it was registerd in late 2000
8. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #8 9th July 2009, 15:24

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by redsaxo22 where is the dipstick? is it in the middle of the manifold or to the right? i have a t plate vtr with a silvertop but is still mk1 engine. airbox is also different. there are 3 types of engine. mk1 blacktop 90hp, single plug ecu, 97-99 mk1silvertop 90hp, single plug ecu, 99-2000 mk2 silvertop 98hp. 3 plug ecu, 2000-2003 i believe your engine is mk1 silvertop . i may be wrong about the above dates though.

   my saxo is a mk2
9. redsaxo22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 lanark Posts: 108 saxo vtr 99,mgf 2001,saxo forte,vaux corsa,cant fi

   #9 9th July 2009, 15:25

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by Daniel09 my saxo is a mk2

   yes it mk2 shape but you still will have the silvertop mk1?
10. redsaxo22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 lanark Posts: 108 saxo vtr 99,mgf 2001,saxo forte,vaux corsa,cant fi

    #10 9th July 2009, 15:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redsaxo22 yes it mk2 shape but you still will have the silvertop mk1?

    i meant silvertop mk1 engine
11. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #11 9th July 2009, 15:27

    he has said he has a 3 plug though so will be a mk2 silvertop
12. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #12 9th July 2009, 15:27

    no thats what im saying... i cnt get a picture of under the bonet yet as its in for an MOT
    
    
    the cars got FSH 1 owner like i said who was an oldish lady,
    
    i double cheked the engine this morning at the garage and it is 3 plus ECU with the same air box as whats on the 98 BHP looks exaclty the same as the pic of the 98BHP in the FAQ's
13. redsaxo22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 lanark Posts: 108 saxo vtr 99,mgf 2001,saxo forte,vaux corsa,cant fi

    #13 9th July 2009, 15:29

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aron he has said he has a 3 plug though so will be a mk2 silvertop

    so why the thread? a picture of the engine would be nice.
14. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #14 9th July 2009, 15:32

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redsaxo22 so why the thread? a picture of the engine would be nice.

    i will get one later on today..
    
    reason: i was on the understanding the 98 engine were from 2001 only.
15. Jordy6969 Established Member Joined: Sep 2008 Sittingbourne, Kent Posts: 1161 My bike

    #15 9th July 2009, 15:36

    yer i thought this aswell, however i have a friend who has a furio on here that is an x reg but also has a 3 plug ECU system in it when it should have a single plug, it also has the cat converter in the manifold.....
    
    where is the cat on your car, this may shed some light on the situation
16. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #16 9th July 2009, 15:40

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jordy6969 yer i thought this aswell, however i have a friend who has a furio on here that is an x reg but also has a 3 plug ECU system in it when it should have a single plug, it also has the cat converter in the manifold..... where is the cat on your car, this may shed some light on the situation

    not sure mate not looked that deep into the engine//... i just know its a 3 plus and the air box/ dipstick are same as the 98 BHP
17. redsaxo22 Infrequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 lanark Posts: 108 saxo vtr 99,mgf 2001,saxo forte,vaux corsa,cant fi

    #17 9th July 2009, 15:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daniel09 i will get one later on today.. reason: i was on the understanding the 98 engine were from 2001 only.

    yeah. cool no probs. its just that i'm intrigued. lol.
18. Aron Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Feb 2007 Nuneaton Posts: 3554 EP3 Civic

    #18 9th July 2009, 15:46

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redsaxo22 so why the thread? a picture of the engine would be nice.

    dont know why you are asking me that
19. bfc2dabone Frequent Poster Joined: May 2008 hayes, middx Posts: 710 saxo mrk2 vtr, v reg (90bhp), citroen relay tipper

    #19 9th July 2009, 17:04

    http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87916
20. col101 Frequent Poster Joined: Mar 2009 York Posts: 768 VTR

    #20 9th July 2009, 21:39

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daniel09 ... i had a look in the FAQ...

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bfc2dabone http://www.saxperience.com/forum/showthread.php?t=87916

    Fail...
21. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #21 9th July 2009, 22:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by col101 Fail...

    whys it a fail? hes looked in the faq's which state the 98bhp is 2001 onwards and his is 2000 car but appears to be a 98bhp.
    
    anyway, get pics up
22. user_26153 Established Member Joined: Aug 2008 Blackpool, UK (occasionaly Isle Of Wight) Posts: 1121 Citroen Saxo VTR 2001 Eunos Roadster

    #22 9th July 2009, 22:09

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM whys it a fail? hes looked in the faq's which state the 98bhp is 2001 onwards and his is 2000 car but appears to be a 98bhp. anyway, get pics up

    Im guessing because he said he has read the thread about it and then someone posts a link to it later in the thread
23. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #23 9th July 2009, 22:20

    fine
24. Quick Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2003 United Kingdom (England) Posts: 7064

    #24 9th July 2009, 22:34

    Must have been one of the first ones fitted with the 98 bhp engine, you get some X's with the 98bhper and I've seen some Y's with the 90bhp engine (cars which were registered late)
    
    However you pay the full whack for tax, (March 2001 goes by co2 so a lower banding)
    
    
    

    Quote:

    The vehicle details for X871 XFM are: Date of Liability 29 05 2009 Date of First Registration 30 11 2000 Year of Manufacture 2000 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1587CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour BLUE

25. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #25 10th July 2009, 15:47

    sorry couldnt get a picture last night, i wasnt able to pick my car up from the garage as the car failed the MOT on 2 blown bulbs and a washer not working lmao
    
    shud be picking it up anytime not just waiting for the phone call
    
    as said above, it could well be a later x' one of the first with ther 98HP
26. JoshB Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Dec 2008 Pontefract Posts: 4007 2010 E92 320i MSport

    #26 10th July 2009, 18:26

    My mate in college got an X-reg VTR brand new (crikey, suprised I can remember that far back!) and that was a 98bhp engine. I can remember arguing with him how it wasnt but then he showed me the 3 plug ECU.
    
    Sticky needs updating with a disclaimer I think