saxo 1.1 enginewise

12th July 2009, 13:15

aryt peeps what else could i do to my 1.1 engine wise, it has a full piper induction kit and straight through piper exhaust i know it sounds wierd but she beat a vtr ... sum1 help me out please tar

12th July 2009, 13:38

No way would a 1.1 beat a VTR he would have to have not been giving it any beans......best bet for Cost/max power gain is engine conversion to 16v VTS Lump.

12th July 2009, 14:41

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Originally Posted by York1366

No way would a 1.1 beat a VTR he would have to have not been giving it any beans......best bet for Cost/max power gain is engine conversion to 16v VTS Lump.

ii then its jus the insurance to worry about am only 17 lol

12th July 2009, 14:43

Not much else you can do on a 1.1 mate unfortunetely.

Best bet is to spend the money on brakes an suspension, will get a much better all round car from that

12th July 2009, 14:54

Sell up and buy a vtr, then in a few more years time when you can afford to insure a vts, buy a 106 gti

12th July 2009, 17:05

1.1 wouldnt beat a vtr

12th July 2009, 17:20

Unless he was a shocking driver >.> (Very shocking)

12th July 2009, 17:22

unless he missed every gear and got reverse you mean lol

12th July 2009, 17:29

ive got a fully ported and polished and skimmed head for a 1.1 you can have it for 200 or 250 fitted with a new cam belt aswell.
adam

12th July 2009, 18:07

best upgrading your brakes and making it ride nicer.

1.1 isn't going to beat a VTR no matter what people say. they are nippy and quicker than a few cars with similar sized engines but a 1.6? nahhh

12th July 2009, 18:14

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Originally Posted by chinkostu

best upgrading your brakes and making it ride nicer.

1.1 isn't going to beat a VTR no matter what people say. they are nippy and quicker than a few cars with similar sized engines but a 1.6? nahhh

i love these kind of comments
makes me wish i still had my 1.1 tbh
that would keep with a vtr quite happily within legal speeds and in some cases was a bit quicker (in corners) as it weighed fuck all lol

however compared to a similar spec yes it would have lost
but basic breathed vtr it would stay with lol

i would say best bet on a 1.1 is the chassis tbh
the motor isnt going to be very quick
the gearbox is allready pretty good
so its a case of less weight and better traction to get it quicker

12th July 2009, 19:04

My mates old blacktop 1.1 used to be able to keep up with VTRs. Was really odd lol, rapid little thing. Pickup ws pretty mental for such a small engine

12th July 2009, 19:34

Did you beat a vtr that was driven by someones nan? No point wasting your money trying to make it go faster because it wont go any faster. Best bet is to strip it and save the money for a vtr or vts.

12th July 2009, 20:45

Strip the feck out of it, or just wait until you can upgrade

12th July 2009, 21:00

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Originally Posted by York1366

unless he missed every gear and got reverse you mean lol

Lmao, 1.1's and vtr's... there is a load of difference, my old 1.1 is like a snail comapred to my vtr

12th July 2009, 21:06

As stated the 1.1's engine is not really worth modifying internally. Breathing mods are pretty much sorted by the seem of things, to increase acceleration just strip the vehicle

. Either save for an engine conversion or save for a VTR for more power. But I'd only advise an engine conversion if you think the chassis is in good nick for it's age and worth the money and hassle.

Get a decent suspension setup and if its a mk1 1.1 save for a four stud hub conversion for a VT lump. Loads of threads are available for info on this. Sort the brakes and the suspension and you're onto a winner.

The 1.1 can be an incredibly fun car around the twisties.

12th July 2009, 22:21

for the people tht didnt quite understand a was up a vtrs arse nd gt past it the lad was neerly cryin some of yous understand tho whos actually had 1.1s (Y) quick little things and yer im considerin some bucket seats and a roll cage in the back (Y) i think only way to get it quicker is to make it lighter now cheers lads

12th July 2009, 22:27

a mate had a 1.1 when i had the vtr engine in and i was quite surprised at how well it kept up at low speeds. not a chance it would have overtaken me at any point but it was still hard to shake off

12th July 2009, 22:34

Ive got to say like i used to have a 1.1 106 with a pipercross and a peco duplex system and de-cat and that was very fast for a 1.1, it did waste the odd VTR but they were the early 1s not the 98BHP 1s, i dont know if it was the drivers that didnt have the balls like but there were a few that i wasted like! I guess it was 1 of those cars that was built on a wedensday and not a monday mornin or friday afternoon lol!

Also most 1.1s dont have any extras on them so are very light weight, mine had no extras on what so ever!! no elecy windows no power steering no abs no air bags and ofcourse 3 stud wheels

Cheers

Cracker

12th July 2009, 22:42

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Originally Posted by Cracker

Ive got to say like i used to have a 1.1 106 with a pipercross and a peco duplex system and de-cat and that was very fast for a 1.1, it did waste the odd VTR but they were the early 1s not the 98BHP 1s, i dont know if it was the drivers that didnt have the balls like but there were a few that i wasted like! I guess it was 1 of those cars that was built on a wedensday and not a monday mornin or friday afternoon lol!

Also most 1.1s dont have any extras on them so are very light weight, mine had no extras on what so ever!! no elecy windows no power steering no abs no air bags and ofcourse 3 stud wheels

Cheers

Cracker

lol...

the reason why 1.1s are light, is because the engines weigh less, other than that, theres not a huge differenece, the lack of weight does not make up for the small engine

a 1.1 with such little mods can NOT beata vtr thats actually trying to race, ive owned a 1.1, VTR and a VTS, the difference between all is fairly big

theres is also barely anything between the 90bhp and 98bhp 8v lump, ive driven both

in conclusion, 1.1 beats 1.6? dream on...

12th July 2009, 23:00

VTR will alsways beat 1.1 end of...

on a seriouse subject...

save for a VTR and ditch the 1.1,

12th July 2009, 23:06

sorry shortshifter didnt want you to get emotional about your vtr lol proberlies had 100s ov 1.1s do you mate anyway answer the question or dint bother unless ya actually goin to help thts the whole point of a forum.. in conclusion do 1

12th July 2009, 23:20

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

sorry shortshifter didnt want you to get emotional about your vtr lol proberlies had 100s ov 1.1s do you mate anyway answer the question or dint bother unless ya actually goin to help thts the whole point of a forum.. in conclusion do 1

ill assume that was aimed at me,

i didnt get "emotional" as you put it, simply told you some simple facts which your too thick to belive.

when you ask a stupid question, filled with retarted comments, expect people to give you correct facts

street racing is for dicks

also, learn to spell

12th July 2009, 23:24

also, leard to spell

well coming from you thats quite unique considering its learn and not 'leard' that pretty much sums up who is in the wrong here and who needs to get their priorities straight. besides this is a forum for people who need help not people to come on and just have their on say, as what you just did so just drive away in ya vtr nd try not get done over by any fast little 1.1s matee .

12th July 2009, 23:28

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

also, leard to spell

well coming from you thats quite unique considering its learn and not 'leard' that pretty much sums up who is in the wrong here and who needs to get their priorities straight. besides this is a forum for people who need help not people to come on and just have their on say, as what you just did so just drive away in ya vtr nd try not get done over by any fast little 1.1s matee .

my two A's in GCSE english prove different

i dont own a vtr.

im sure if a 1.1 tryed to race id let him win, as above, street racing is for dicks..

its the internet, everyone has an opinion.. get over it

either way, 1.1 beat a vtr? the answer remains - dream on

12th July 2009, 23:33

ha ii ya only got two a's cos they mixed the results up its a mistake really ya failed by the looks of things,
and more like because you arnt a good driver and half the lads on here have street raced so you have just mugged them all off as well as me and nobody said anything about street racing could have been on a track so once again them 2 a's hmm dont know like and either way 1.1 beat a vtr ? the answer remains yes it did and who wasnt their to see that you? and whats half the people on this forum said that have been in that situation ? they said its true. So sorry that you think your so high up in the sky with your 2 a's mate but obviously you only got them writing storys

12th July 2009, 23:37

look mate, drop it.

a daewoo matiz could beat a vtr if it was ragging its nuts off and the vtr was just a casual driver

also, what if the guy in the R was just coasting in 5th and put his foot down?

to finish, argueing on the internet isn't clever. yes, 1.1's are nippy, but for fuck sake, i get my arse handed to me by a STANDARD 1.1 s1 106 in a straight line!

12th July 2009, 23:37

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

ha ii ya only got two a's cos they mixed the results up its a mistake really ya failed by the looks of things,
and more like because you arnt a good driver and half the lads on here have street raced so you have just mugged them all off as well as me and nobody said anything about street racing could have been on a track so once again them 2 a's hmm dont know like and either way 1.1 beat a vtr ? the answer remains yes it did and who wasnt their to see that you? and whats half the people on this forum said that have been in that situation ? they said its true. So sorry that you think your so high up in the sky with your 2 a's mate but obviously you only got them writing storys

Your lack of grammar throughout this thread makes your childish / un-intelligent responses near impossible to read

your the one who said "go drive away in ya vtr, hope ya get beaten by some 1.1's" implying that just because your cool enough to street race, were all the same

you seriously think the guy in the VTR was trying to race if you beat him?

oh and i got more than 2 A's, i did other subjects at school

lolz

12th July 2009, 23:42

lol ok chavvvi

cant be arsed to argue with ya

12th July 2009, 23:44

mate, coming on her and argueing within days/hours of registering isn't really advisable!

can't say anything about street racing, yes i have had some moments where i've driven quickly with other cars and won, but when i've done the same with a similar spec car, driven by someone you know it soon changes

12th July 2009, 23:44

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

lol ok chavvvi

cant be arsed to argue with ya

again, your lack of spelling and grammar is helping you prove to others im the stupid one & a chav

i do not live in a council estate, or am violent

your the knob thinking your hard because you "beat" a vtr in your 1.1

the reason most people hate saxo owners is kids like you who havnt quite hit puberty yet...

12th July 2009, 23:47

fuckin do 1 ya skettyy little hore

12th July 2009, 23:49

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

fuckin do 1 ya skettyy little hore

more proof that most saxo owners are dicks...

i explained things in a relativly simple & respectful manner, its you, the child who has taken it upon yourself to become abusive after realising a lot of members on here have told you straight that a 1.1 will not beat a vtr

12th July 2009, 23:50

english please

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

Will you please fucking move along you whore

to where? its the internet mate

keep it up and you'll get banned!

and its Whore

12th July 2009, 23:51

keep it a seriose discussion or bye bye thread guys

it was a reasonable thread to start with bar comments of get a 1.6 which there allways are
however personal insults will get stuff closed/deleted tbh

12th July 2009, 23:54

well like i said a threads to help someone but you just had to keep going i have got my information from this thread so its no longer needed thanks lads

12th July 2009, 23:55

if you didn't get so defensive and abusive maybe it wouldn't have gone this way

kicking off on the internet is not cool

13th July 2009, 00:00

ok well i dont care so just go about your own buisness not coming in this thread anymore so dont bother replying thanks lads

13th July 2009, 00:02

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

well like i said a threads to help someone but you just had to keep going i have got my information from this thread so its no longer needed thanks lads

It takes two to tango, be the bigger man

As for your comment on a cage, I really wouldn't bother on a road car, they could do more harm then they are worth. Yes it will stiffen the vehicle but if your head collides with that bar in an accident without a helmet you're stumped. Its a waste of money unless the car is going straight on track.

What sort of suspension setup are you looking for, and are you still on steelies? If you are look for a decent set of alloys kicking about with decent rubber, the feel of the vehicle will change dramatically when cornerring.

13th July 2009, 00:07

yep (Y) and i have 15 inch wolfrace black alloys mate and it has lowering springs on ?? its good on cornering and all that i think the only thing left is to make it lighter unless you could think of anything else ? cheers

13th July 2009, 09:51

Didn't really want to kick this thread of again,

but maybe it could of been a furio?

Not alot of difference between 1.1 and furio.

13th July 2009, 13:44

in response to the stuff about suspension you could probably dramatically improve the car with a well balanced set of springs and some dampers aswell as tweaking arbs ect

have a browse in the suspension section and you may find a lot of info in there

13th July 2009, 13:54

my 1.1 used to bone vtrs and be faster than normal 16vs eat that. Amusing thread here :

http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...t=94066&page=9 further down link to a thread on 106oc

13th July 2009, 15:48

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Originally Posted by tempest2k9

for the people tht didnt quite understand a was up a vtrs arse nd gt past it the lad was neerly cryin some of yous understand tho whos actually had 1.1s (Y) quick little things and yer im considerin some bucket seats and a roll cage in the back (Y) i think only way to get it quicker is to make it lighter now cheers lads

oh you mean you overtook him lol . i just jest mate