Cams Newman Ph1

1. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #1 17th July 2009, 15:05

   http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...cker-1450.html
   
   what sort of increase am i looking at adding these cams?
   
   also what else would i need to buy aswell as these?
   
   thanks
2. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #2 17th July 2009, 15:07

   *Cam - there's only one in the 8V engine.
   
   Not heard of many people fitting the PH1 to be honest, it's almost too mild to warrant pulling the head off the engine. Go for a Kent Cam PT40 instead - will see you into the region of 118 - 119bhp (unmapped) with breathing mods.
3. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

   #3 17th July 2009, 15:07

   dont do ph1s pal, u'll barely notice the increase... in theory you wouldnt need to change anything but a remap for them would see your best power increase.. it is said remap is not neccessary for these ones... i've been looking into it, go bigger and better with the remap and u'll be pushing past vts's mate....
4. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #4 17th July 2009, 15:09

   right... never cammed an engine before
   
   only ever replaced standard,
   
   ill take a look at the PT40
5. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

   #5 17th July 2009, 15:13

   ...the ones i want... but cost just as much (once remapped) as dropping a vts lump in virtually!! hehe
6. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

   #6 17th July 2009, 15:17

   has anybody got a link to a PT40 cam?
   
   cant fine one on the internet anywhere?
7. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #7 17th July 2009, 15:17

   It's not the cheapest option, but maybe works out cheaper in the long run than insuring a car with an engine conversion? Suppose it depends on how long you're keeping the car.
   
   Kent PT40 (brand new blank) - £200
   New head gasket, head bolts, cambelt kit - £80ish
   Adjustable cam pulley - £90ish
   Having the cam timing adjusted on the rollers - £100ish
   
   Then you have labour charges and your breathing mods (to make the most of the cam) on top of that. They do drive very well once the timing is where it needs to be, much better than a VTS on fuel too.
8. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

   #8 17th July 2009, 15:19

   wish you could take mortgages out on this sort of work!
9. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

   #9 17th July 2009, 15:19

   they've got the bigger cam on the Kamracing site have they not??
10. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #10 17th July 2009, 15:19

    PT40 on eBay. Larkspeed also sell them (ignore the PT3040K bit, the cam you get is the PT40).
    
    You could also go for a Newman PH3 which you can grab from Kam Racing - 'tis slightly cheaper to buy and gives similar/ better results than the PT40. I recommended the PT40 as I had good results with it fitted to mine.
11. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #11 17th July 2009, 15:22

    yeah exactly im planning on keeping the car a long time,
    
    i dont want to be buying a VTS for insurance purpouses
    
    and i font want to be like everybody else and drop a VTS engine in
    
    labours chaeges aint really a problem
12. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

    #12 17th July 2009, 15:24

    pfft alright for some... haha, my charges used to be free, and my mate at pug lost his job- doesnt have all the tools to do it at home for me now but he can still do ma head gasket for.... free chuffed...
13. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #13 17th July 2009, 15:25

    Ah right. You will get good results with either the PT40 or PH3 unmapped, providing you fit an adjustable pulley and have it set up properly on the rolling road. Breathing mods are a must too!
14. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #14 17th July 2009, 15:26

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by woody813 pfft alright for some... haha, my charges used to be free, and my mate at pug lost his job- doesnt have all the tools to do it at home for me now but he can still do ma head gasket for.... free chuffed...

    im a college student doing a national in vehicle technology
    
    so i get to use all colleges facilities for free outside off hours, and if i need help the tutors will step in,
    
    we also have a roling road and facilities to remap most cars
15. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #15 17th July 2009, 15:27

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH Ah right. You will get good results with either the PT40 or PH3 unmapped, providing you fit an adjustable pulley and have it set up properly on the rolling road. Breathing mods are a must too!

    
    i was planning on a pannel filter TBH
    
    and maybee an oil cooler kit, not to sure on that yet tho
16. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #16 17th July 2009, 15:35

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Daniel09 i was planning on a pannel filter TBH and maybee an oil cooler kit, not to sure on that yet tho

    Panel filter should be ample, but you definitely want an aftermarket manifold and exhaust. A Piper 4-1 manifold is where I'd spend my money.
    
    As for the oil cooler, might want to have a read of this.
17. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #17 17th July 2009, 15:41

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH Panel filter should be ample, but you definitely want an aftermarket manifold and exhaust. A Piper 4-1 manifold is where I'd spend my money. As for the oil cooler, might want to have a read of this.

    i couldny buy a new mani tho could i with my car being in there?
    
    De-cat = mot fail
    
    urmm ..
    
    scrap the cooler idea..
18. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #18 17th July 2009, 15:46

    Get a MK1 VTR CAT to go under the car. Or buy something like the Janspeed manifold with incorporated sports CAT.
19. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #19 17th July 2009, 15:48

    ahh never thought of any of them TBH
    
    doh..
    
    i think id go with the janspeep
20. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

    #20 17th July 2009, 15:48

    iv always had vts's n now ive got a vtr, how much are these and what are the best ones for the mk1 cos my downpipe is craked anyway and the manifold is like all of 3 inches big! ha...
21. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #21 17th July 2009, 15:52

    MK1 has the CAT under the car, so something like a Raceland 4-2-1 will be a direct fit.
22. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

    #22 17th July 2009, 15:56

    righty! cheers pal... how much we lookin at you think?
23. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #23 17th July 2009, 16:00

    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-1-4i-999.html
24. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #24 17th July 2009, 16:02

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by woody813 righty! cheers pal... how much we lookin at you think?

    the link in the post above is the manifold, if oyu have a mk1 u need a cantrepipe with the cat rather than the cat in the mani
    
    i could do with something like this really
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...o-vtr-998.html
25. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

    #25 17th July 2009, 16:14

    so where will the lambda sensor go then?... ive currently got the manifold in one piece, then straight away a downpipe is seperatly attached on with a lamda sensor on it... this attaches jus below in line with main engine block at the front...then i assume the cat gos onto this and off to the back....
26. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #26 17th July 2009, 16:27

    i think the sensor should go at the bottom of the mani possibly..
    
    im not to sure of the mk1 set up TBH but i know the cat is under the car
27. woody813 Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Shrewsbury Posts: 351 Red Mk1 Vtr- Slammed.

    #27 17th July 2009, 16:29

    yeah, ok cheers pal!
28. Daniel09 Established Member Joined: Jul 2009 N.wales! Posts: 1024 slammed VTS

    #28 17th July 2009, 16:34

    if you was to say buy this mani
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-1-4i-999.html
    
    you can see what the bottom where you attach the sensor
    
    where as on the 2000> mani
    
    http://www.kamracing.co.uk/manufactu...-1-4i-999.html
    
    you attach it into the middle into the cat
29. deanjay Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 100

    #29 21st July 2009, 12:36

    keep the cat when i replacing it with a decat and take that to the mot centre with you show them and they may let it through, thats what i have always done mate.
30. deanjay Infrequent Poster Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 100

    #30 21st July 2009, 12:37

    just be a little chosey about where you send it for mot though mate