looking for cams

  1. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
    #1
    Ok, i've got all the breather mods(full exaust sytem, induction kit and vtr TB) on my 1.4 saxo. My headgasket is gone and needs to be replaced. So i think it's time for an aftermarket camshaft. I've looked arround on the forum for information on wich cam i want to buy but i'm not getting any wiser I'm looking for a cam that would not need a remap, pulley or uprated valve springs. Might get a remap in the future. Wich would be the best? Newman PH1 or PH3 or Kentcam pt40 or pt41?
  2. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
    #2
    Just whack a vtr engine and ecu in with a vts box. No one will be able to tell the difference, then play with that. Get 80-90bhp from a slightly tuned 1.4, for that price you could easily get a 1.6 lump and service it, 90bhp base then.
  3. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VtsTom View Post
    Just whack a vtr engine and ecu in with a vts box. No one will be able to tell the difference, then play with that. Get 80-90bhp from a slightly tuned 1.4, for that price you could easily get a 1.6 lump and service it, 90bhp base then.
    i know but i make a lot of miles a week so i dont want an big increase on fuel consumption. my 1.4 is doing 45ish mpg with the mods and a standard vtr would do 34ish mpg...
  4. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Oct 2007 Spalding-ish Posts: 2512 Mk4 Anniversary golf. 106 Quiksallye
    #4
    Camming your 1.4 engine will use more petrol than a 1.6lump with your current breathing mods
  5. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #5
    With your current mods your mpg aint gunner be that good never mind if you put a cam in her an map it...
  6. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Jul 2007 Newcastle Posts: 6719
    #6
    Tom is speaking common sense.

    For the price of cam by it self or sorting out the gasket you can get a decent VTR lump.
  7. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
    #7
    maybe in the uk, but not in the netherlands.
  8. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
    #8
    but what if i want to keep my 1.4, any cam suggestions?
  9. Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Rotherham Posts: 4614 Black mk2 vts
    #9
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kistigun View Post
    but what if i want to keep my 1.4, any cam suggestions?
    Take a look on this site http://www.kamracing.co.uk/
  10. Frequent Poster Joined: Jan 2009 Wokingham, Berkshire Posts: 606 16v VTR
    #10
    I used a PT40 in my vtr and it made 119.5bhp unmapped from a 98bhp engine with the usual breathing mods. I dont know how they perform in a 1.4 but ive found it a good cam in my vtr.

    It doesnt need uprated valve springs unless you raise the rev limit but a vernier pulley would be a good thing to have. I will run on a standard one though.
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  11. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 3cott View Post
    Take a look on this site http://www.kamracing.co.uk/
    yes they sell them mate, not really helpfull
  12. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wizzy View Post
    I used a PT40 in my vtr and it made 119.5bhp unmapped from a 98bhp engine with the usual breathing mods. I dont know how they perform in a 1.4 but ive found it a good cam in my vtr.

    It doesnt need uprated valve springs unless you raise the rev limit but a vernier pulley would be a good thing to have. I will run on a standard one though.
    ok thanks mate, so the pt40 wont need any other modifications. what about pt41's? and is there anyone with a 1.4 with an uprated cam?
  13. Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS
    #13
    PT41 is quite wild, may even need pocketed pistons IIRC? PT40 would be a good addition, I saw on 106 owners that it will make better power with a VTR inlet manifold fitted.

    Breathing mods will definitely help too!
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  14. Frequent Poster Joined: Apr 2009 Weert NL Posts: 713 Citroen Saxo 1.4 VTS MK2 2000 TU3JP
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    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeeumH View Post
    PT41 is quite wild, may even need pocketed pistons IIRC? PT40 would be a good addition, I saw on 106 owners that it will make better power with a VTR inlet manifold fitted.

    Breathing mods will definitely help too!
    ok thanks mate, think i'm going to look for the pt40. Allready got all the breathing mods and when i've solved this http://www.saxperience.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=244618 i know wich sensor to buy and i can fit the vtr tb & inlet mani
  15. Established Member Joined: Jun 2008 nuneaton Posts: 1796 LY R26
    #15
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by kistigun View Post
    i know but i make a lot of miles a week so i dont want an big increase on fuel consumption. my 1.4 is doing 45ish mpg with the mods and a standard vtr would do 34ish mpg...

    thats not always true i have a vtr thats fully breathered, stripped and it has a 1.4xsi gearbox fitted and i actually get 45mpg as you can see under my progress link

    and i travel alot of miles too, i travel 26miles to work then the same back, so you will be getting the same, where as if you cam your 1.4 you will do less mpg so you may be better putting a vtr lump in, unless oyu really want to keep the 1.4 engine then just use a mild cam as people have already said