16v Conversion - Immobilisar Query

1. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #1 22nd July 2009, 15:15

   I have copied this from the 16V conversion help guide:
   
   Immobiliser, just simply start your engine and then pull your immobiliser out from under the fuse box and this unlocks the ECU and lets you use the 16v one which will need unlocking. I recommend Blue Hawk Electronics in Nottingham for unlocking the 16v ECU. Then shut your engine off, and then restart it to see if it’s worked! But if you have an after market immobiliser instead, then I believe this is not necessary, BUT do it anyway!
   
   Can anyone shed any more light on this? I already have an unlocked vts ecu ready so do you just "pull" the old immobiliser out from under the fuse box? Is it that simple?
   
   Cheers.
2. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

   #2 22nd July 2009, 15:51

   Thats a load of rubbish, you dont need to do the first bit of pulling the box out to allow you to use the unlocked 16v ecu.
   
   Just fit the engine, disconnect the box and leave it unplugged (doesnt matter when you do it as long as its before you fit the 16v ecu). Then fit your ecu and off you go.
   
   If it turns out to be locked dont go to bluehawk theyre expensive.. come to me instead

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3. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #3 22nd July 2009, 16:03

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by ryanmt Thats a load of rubbish, you dont need to do the first bit of pulling the box out to allow you to use the unlocked 16v ecu. Just fit the engine, disconnect the box and leave it unplugged (doesnt matter when you do it as long as its before you fit the 16v ecu). Then fit your ecu and off you go. If it turns out to be locked dont go to bluehawk theyre expensive.. come to me instead

   Its 3 plug mate, you cant do them can you?! It's unlocked anyway.. Guy also supplied me with key, fob etc, so if i accidently lock it, he said this will unlock it?!
   
   So I fit the new engine, disconnect the box and then fit the 16v ecu and then reconnect the box??
4. Ste Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Mar 2007 Yorkshire Posts: 5415 Saxo

   #4 22nd July 2009, 16:05

   To unlock it just pull the transponder out once its running from the orig car.
   
   If you plug the transponder back in it locks the ECU to that transponder.
5. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #5 22nd July 2009, 16:19

   you only have to do it with the engine running to unlock the original ecu, if you're not bothered about this then it doesnt matter.
   make sure that immobiliser is unplugged from your car before the unlocked vts ecu is plugged in and dont plug it back in again, just bin it, it'll lock the new ecu

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6. ryanmt Established Member Joined: Oct 2004 Warrington Posts: 1987 AX VTS 57 3.0 TDI A5

   #6 22nd July 2009, 16:28

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by JRC1 Its 3 plug mate, you cant do them can you?! It's unlocked anyway.. Guy also supplied me with key, fob etc, so if i accidently lock it, he said this will unlock it?! So I fit the new engine, disconnect the box and then fit the 16v ecu and then reconnect the box??

   Ive located all the equipment i need now so its in the pipeline. Just need an ecu to play with (ie not a customers) and a bit more cash to buy what i need!
7. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #7 25th July 2009, 12:55

   Can't find the black immobilisar thing for the ecu under the fuse box thing by the passenger side of the dash?? help please..
8. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

   #8 25th July 2009, 13:07

   its as far to the left of the dash, its a black box about the size of a packet of 20 fags
9. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

   #9 25th July 2009, 13:09

   Quote:

   Originally Posted by LeeM its as far to the left of the dash, its a black box about the size of a packet of 20 fags

   I've found it mate.. one last query..
   
   I am now able to fit my unlocked vts ecu... however, this has come with the box thing that i have just disconnected.. do i need to re-connect this new one? or just not put any black box back??
   
   thanks..
10. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #10 25th July 2009, 13:17

    so youve got the new ecu with the matching immobiliser box, key/chip and pick up thingy? you can replace all of these to have your immobilser back or just leave the immobilser box out completely, this is the lazy option that i took.
    also if you have all that i hope you idnt pay to have your ecu unlocked...?
11. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

    #11 25th July 2009, 13:22

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeM so youve got the new ecu with the matching immobiliser box, key/chip and pick up thingy? you can replace all of these to have your immobilser back or just leave the immobilser box out completely, this is the lazy option that i took. also if you have all that i hope you idnt pay to have your ecu unlocked...?

    That's correct. I have the 3 Plug ECU (which is already unlocked), the small black box, the key, and another barrel thing..
    
    Think i'll just decide to go for the lazy option as I have a Toad Ai606 fitted anyway..
    
    So basically, I just don't plug back in any small black box? Just fit the new ecu and new engine and it should start..?
    
    And, I bought the ECU unlocked, and he just provided all the bits and pieces just incase i accidently lock it..
    
    Cheers for your help dude..
12. LeeM Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Feb 2008 Liverpool Posts: 7393 Black Corsa C SRi

    #12 25th July 2009, 13:24

    yeah just dont plug anything back in

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13. PUG1OFF Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2009 chorley lancashire pr7 Posts: 401 106 s2 gti turbo,46k quicky,caddy van vr6, and a w

    #13 27th July 2009, 11:37

    when i did myne i didnt touch my emob i just put on unlocked ecu and that was that .
14. JRC1 Saxperience Forum Bum Joined: Mar 2008 Southampton Posts: 4839 16v'd White Furio & MK5 Golf R32

    #14 27th July 2009, 11:38

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by PUG1OFF when i did myne i didnt touch my emob i just put on unlocked ecu and that was that .

    Oh really?! Well i've pulled my immobilisar out now and have fitted the new unlocked ecu.. so fingers crossed that will work when i'm ready to start it up..
15. PUG1OFF Regular Poster Joined: Jul 2009 chorley lancashire pr7 Posts: 401 106 s2 gti turbo,46k quicky,caddy van vr6, and a w

    #15 27th July 2009, 12:00

    hope it works mate gud luck

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16. grandpacharli Newbie Joined: Oct 2008 crowthorne, wokingham ,sandhurst Posts: 13 saxo vtr vts convertion

    #16 3rd August 2009, 11:46

    vtr 3 plug ecu,imobiliser and key / vts single plug ecu imobiliser and key / vtr 3 plug loom / vts single plug loom / vtr engine ( no gearbox) for sale check piston heads) just completed vts engine convertion by me and my mate ask me any quistions hope this helps