Cams (kent pt50's) and FSE power boost valve UPDATED !

22nd July 2009, 15:26

had the head gasket go on my vts on the other day

so had a look at what cams were init, found a code kcpt50

after abit of research (search button

) found out they were kent cams pt50's ...

would like some feed back on these cams and peoples thoughts on them?

also having my power boost valve turned up too much would not cause the head gasket to go would it? or maybe turned turned down too much?

cheers

22nd July 2009, 15:38

I think there whats in the 106 cup cars

22nd July 2009, 15:39

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Originally Posted by Ste

I think there whats in the 106 cup cars

cheers

22nd July 2009, 15:49

hmmm power boost valve?? my head gasket was on its way but only when i cranked up the boost valve? is there a link... would like to know!

Also hear these cams are good for minor increases! better than just standard

22nd July 2009, 16:06

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Originally Posted by woody813

hmmm power boost valve?? my head gasket was on its way but only when i cranked up the boost valve? is there a link... would like to know!

Also hear these cams are good for minor increases! better than just standard

yh im impressed with the cams myself

hmmm ... maybe there is a link between them power boost valves and h/g's

22nd July 2009, 16:22

PT50s are pretty mild.

22nd July 2009, 16:33

yer they can be used without a re map i think!

still should help abit

andy

22nd July 2009, 17:11

yh im running them without remap at the moment and im very pleased with them

22nd July 2009, 18:50

uprate the gasket, remap it and with stronger bolts for good measure.

22nd July 2009, 18:53

wouldnt waste your cash remapping the car with pt50's. May aswel remove them and stick pt51's in.

They are good to run without a remap and only shift the power band as far as i am aware.
(some reading on ssc to be had regarding them)

Take it you have been driving it before the head gasket? so you should know how she runs.

Power boost valve? do you mean adjustable fpr?

22nd July 2009, 20:10

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Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

wouldnt waste your cash remapping the car with pt50's. May aswel remove them and stick pt51's in.

They are good to run without a remap and only shift the power band as far as i am aware.
(some reading on ssc to be had regarding them)

Take it you have been driving it before the head gasket? so you should know how she runs.

Power boost valve? do you mean adjustable fpr?

yh an adjustable fpr ...

i would definately get larger cams before a remap as well ... runs sweet just want to get the fpr set up correctly ... any suggestions?

22nd July 2009, 23:45

i have been offered the option to get cams set up and the power boost valve set up by gt motorsport ...

what hes told me

he said he will set my cams up properly by adjusting their timing, etc.

he said he sets the power boost valve up by running a pipe into the car while driving and taking a reading from the power boost valve and keep tinkering with it untill that is set up correctly as well

my thoughts

i never heard of method of setting the power boost valve up ???

Also is worth having the cams set up as they are only pt50's ???

what would be peoples thoughts of letting the guy set them up?

(the guy is highly respected and is a cosworth specialist)

any input is appreciated

cheers

23rd July 2009, 13:09

well i think these run of standard marks, but could gain alittle depends on the price,

might be worth it,

andy

23rd July 2009, 13:13

again i reckon will depend how much you will be paying for how much difference you will get... never heard of the powerboost valve having to be set up like that!? just adjest to how much more fuel you want thrown in... lol

Worth a try if you think you will benefit for what it will cost you....

23rd July 2009, 14:26

fpr best set up on a rolling road imo, thats able to read afr then can adjust the fpr if car is running rich or lean. Be fine with standard VTS fpr imo so no need for it. As those cams run fine without remaps.

Wont see a great deal over a standard vts but should pull a couple of car lengths.

Have you put the camshafts back in yourself? Tb i wouldnt bother paying someone mega bucks to adjust them if you have, for very little gain your going to see.

23rd July 2009, 14:40

well he said he would charge £80 ?

cams were in the vts lump when i brought it

cheers for the input guys

23rd July 2009, 14:42

do it for 60! ha... well you can always try, aslong as your convinced it will make a difference then go for it pall... can only make it better!

Get it on the remap!

23rd July 2009, 14:52

im not convinced tho ... lol ... thats why i asked on here

if they were ph3's then i would definatly do it but as there only mild cams im wondering if it would be worth it or not ?

cheers for the input again mate

23rd July 2009, 15:00

for the sake of 80quid.......... hmmmm well its a decision in your head then pal, sure theres plenty of better things you could put 80 quid towards and for two things that dont make the biggest of differences ... put it towards some ph3's

23rd July 2009, 15:03

if anything it would be towards a 4 branch as i think its crying for one as its cammed

cheers tho mate

23rd July 2009, 15:05

Sounds a plan matey!

23rd July 2009, 16:23

My vts has got high flow heads fast road cams in. They were in when I bought it and im told they are the equivilant to the pt60.
I know that these are a mild cam.
Does anybody know anymore about them?
I will be looking at 708s or ph3's in the future as these seem to be the best from what I have read on here.

Cheers.

23rd July 2009, 17:43

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Originally Posted by woody813

Sounds a plan matey!

cheers for your help buddy

23rd July 2009, 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thunderz

My vts has got high flow heads fast road cams in. They were in when I bought it and im told they are the equivilant to the pt60.
I know that these are a mild cam.
Does anybody know anymore about them?
I will be looking at 708s or ph3's in the future as these seem to be the best from what I have read on here.

Cheers.

pt60's? do they exist for the saxo/106 engine?

Thought the hi flow heads camshafts (regrinds of standards) were pt51's well they were when i asked

They will do them to what spec you require within reason however.

http://www.kentcams.com/product/prod...=104&EngID=130

23rd July 2009, 18:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

pt60's? do they exist for the saxo/106 engine?

Thought the hi flow heads camshafts (regrinds of standards) were pt51's well they were when i asked

They will do them to what spec you require within reason however.

http://www.kentcams.com/product/prod...=104&EngID=130

when i was doing some research iirc kent only do up to pt54's ...

and there for track use only i think

23rd July 2009, 20:26

do people reckon a 4 branch will make a big difference with it being cammed?

was reading a thread earlier that said some guy had a cammed vtr on stnd manifold and they said no point in the cam with out a 4 branch ...

23rd July 2009, 21:09

yer 4-2-1 will help free up the revs abit!

Andy

23rd July 2009, 21:22

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Originally Posted by AndySAXOK

yer 4-2-1 will help free up the revs abit!

Andy

cheers buddy ... was hoping for abit more than just freeing up the revs tho tbf

23rd July 2009, 22:44

will aid a bit, dont expect nothing spectacular.

23rd July 2009, 23:20

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Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

will aid a bit, dont expect nothing spectacular.

i no it wont make a massive difference but hoping it will be noticable if you know what i mean

24th July 2009, 12:57

yer will hopfully notice aq bit more pull!! but it rev more freely so should feel better

also notice a differance in noise too!

andy

24th July 2009, 13:07

a decat or manifold will have a much better effect that messing with a 'power boost valve' tbh, as these shud have been put on before cams, save your money for breathing mods to get the best results

24th July 2009, 13:52

has got induction and decat exhaust ... only the 4 branch to add to breathing mods

also the cams and power boost valve were already on the 16v lump

chers for the input tho guys

25th July 2009, 15:33

What pressure should the fse power boost valve to set to?

iirc the normal vts fpr is set to 3 bar so should i get the fse set to 3.5 bar?

cheers

25th July 2009, 15:41

Quote:

What pressure should the fse power boost valve to set to?

iirc the normal vts fpr is set to 3 bar so should i get the fse set to 3.5 bar?

cheers

Nope set it to 3bar. Mien is set to 3bar with bodies, the reason been is that under load the FSE ups the fuel pressure, so at 3.5bar you will be over fuelling a lot.

25th July 2009, 15:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by makaveli144

Nope set it to 3bar. Mien is set to 3bar with bodies, the reason been is that under load the FSE ups the fuel pressure, so at 3.5bar you will be over fuelling a lot.

ok mate cheers for that ...

25th July 2009, 17:51

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Originally Posted by makaveli144

Nope set it to 3bar. Mien is set to 3bar with bodies, the reason been is that under load the FSE ups the fuel pressure, so at 3.5bar you will be over fuelling a lot.

so i need to set it so it idles at 3 bar?

25th July 2009, 17:55

Yup, also the locking nut for the fuel pressure is crap on the fse so I used loctite threadlocker to stop it from adjusting itself.

25th July 2009, 17:57

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Originally Posted by makaveli144

Yup, also the locking nut for the fuel pressure is crap on the fse so I used loctite threadlocker to stop it from adjusting itself.

ok mate cheers

26th July 2009, 15:36

be alot easier just to get an standard vts one!

but yer keep to 3 bar!

Andy

26th July 2009, 16:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndySAXOK

be alot easier just to get an standard vts one!

but yer keep to 3 bar!

Andy

ok mate 3 bar sounds mint ... also is this the gauge used to set them up ?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuel-Pressure-...lenotsupported

(sorry for the ebay link, just want to make sure im buying the correct product, cheers)

26th July 2009, 18:49

anybody used one ? ^^^^

26th July 2009, 18:57

I'd bin the boost valve tbh. PT50's are fairly mild so should be fine with std VTS fpr.

27th July 2009, 13:16

Is that the correct gauge above or not mate?

28th July 2009, 15:27

anybody know?

28th July 2009, 15:31

just use the standard VTS fpr as already said.

29th July 2009, 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve_VTS

just use the standard VTS fpr as already said.

would perfer to set the boost valve up properly tbh

is this the correct gauge?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Fuel-Pressure-...lenotsupported

cheers