Big Brakes on 14" VTR wheels

1. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

   #1 26th July 2009, 11:19

   On saturday i replaced my standard VTR brakes with a 306 HDi setup so now im running 266mm disks, we did however have to modify the brackets the calipers sit on as they were too big and knocked off the strut so you couldnt fit them, but we sorted that problem and there on and work great! The main problem we have is that the pedal is still spoungy, we've bleed the brakes and its still not any better!! Does any one know how to solve this? i thought that mabye we need a bigger master cylinder to solve this but the 306 HDi has ABS so it only has 2 brake lines out of it and ive got a VTR without ABS so its no good!
   
   Any help on this would be much appreciated!
2. AlexBp West Midlands Joined: Dec 2007 West mids Posts: 23149 Supra,civic GL

   #2 26th July 2009, 11:21

   you can get a bigger 4 port mc to put on the car
   
   however normally its not spongey pedal thats the issue its pedal travel
   
   i would say try and bleed up the rear brakes aswell as the fronts if you havent
3. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #3 26th July 2009, 11:26

   The pedal travel on mine with 266mm brakes increased a little, but I wouldn't say the pedal was spongy.... got used to it after a day or two. You can adjust the pedal using this guide, never felt the need to myself.
   
   As above, bleed all four brakes in sequence. From the Haynes...
   
   

   Quote:

   A)Left Hand Rear Wheel B)Right Hand Front Wheel C)Right Hand Rear Wheel D)Left Hand Front Wheel

4. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

   #4 26th July 2009, 16:27

   Mmmm cheers every one, AlexB, what MC can i use on my VTR? I did have a 206 HDi MC but the bolt holes are completly different to the VTR ones, mines horizontal!
   
   Cheers Liam ill have a go at this some time this week when i can be bothered, its a sunday and im just too lazy to be arsed lol!
5. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #5 26th July 2009, 16:32

   After i had my 266mm setup fitted with goodridge stainless hoses, they bled the brakes and i havent noticed any extra pedal travel at all from standard.
   
   Happy days!
6. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

   #6 26th July 2009, 16:33

   Yeah liam told me about those afew months ago like, need to give me self a shake and order a set! Wish i just had like £2,000 in my bank lol and id go crazy on the saxo haha!
7. DanT Established Member Joined: Feb 2007 P'boro Posts: 1619 R27 Clio

   #7 26th July 2009, 16:35

   yeh, the stainless lines are well worth getting, considerably better pedal feel i found.
8. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

   #8 26th July 2009, 16:43

   I found the Goodridge Saxo hoses were a little too long to use with different brakes... mine used to rub on the struts when turning lock to lock. The Exact ones Kam Racing sell are cheap as chips and are a better length.
9. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

   #9 26th July 2009, 17:12

   Oh right cheers liam, ill have a look at them after me tea!
10. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #10 26th July 2009, 17:43

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cracker I did have a 206 HDi MC but the bolt holes are completly different to the VTR ones, mines horizontal!!

    Does that mean i get it back?...
11. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #11 26th July 2009, 17:52

    Yeah u can, but its no good to you either haha!
12. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #12 26th July 2009, 17:55

    i can make it fit... who needs bolts... stick like shit ftw...
13. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #13 26th July 2009, 18:06

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by digital i can make it fit... who needs bolts... stick like shit ftw...

    Was that you going down manchester street last night at about half 10?
14. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #14 26th July 2009, 18:07

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH Was that you going down manchester street last night at about half 10?

    could of been...
15. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #15 26th July 2009, 18:08

    just hijack my post you 2!!!!
16. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #16 26th July 2009, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cracker just hijack my post you 2!!!!

    no bother...
17. user_15516 Saxperience Post Whore Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 6640 Integra DC5R & VTS

    #17 26th July 2009, 18:10

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by digital could of been...

    Need to get those lexus lights in the bin dude!
18. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #18 26th July 2009, 18:11

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by LeeumH Need to get those lexus lights in the bin dude!

    ahhh yes it was me then... i have new ones to go on... i hate the lexarse lights... why the hell people buy them i do not know...
19. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #19 26th July 2009, 18:11

    haha well said liam!! there awful!!!
20. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #20 26th July 2009, 18:15

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cracker haha well said liam!! there awful!!!

    shut up... you were going to swap with me...
21. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #21 26th July 2009, 18:16

    lmfao i dont think so some how!!! i was just windin you up numpty!
22. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #22 26th July 2009, 18:18

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cracker lmfao i dont think so some how!!! i was just windin you up numpty!

    you say that one here... but you were not lol... what was it... david do you have any tinting spray, why lee... for the lexarse lights... LEE IF YOU PUT THEM ON I WILL KICK YOU FROM HERE TO PETH...
    
    from that point on... you didnt seem to want them haha
23. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #23 26th July 2009, 18:21

    haha lmfao i wanted the lense tinting spray to do my standard lights not your lexus lights! If i was gona have a pair of them again they would have to be in the style of them ones i had on me 106!
24. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #24 26th July 2009, 18:24

    dont lie on here son... we both know the truth haha...
    
    anyway... kind of on topic... my brakes work better than yours lmao... (shame cars fucked lol)
25. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #25 26th July 2009, 18:26

    haha yeah and not lol, ive got bigger calipers yeah i know shame, i was gona say what was every one doin tonight like, thought there was a car meet at washington every sunday?
26. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #26 26th July 2009, 18:30

    your just hole more fluid... meaning they are gay... mine is still the 206 gti 266mm set up... i wint... i had it first lol...
    
    car meet?... you think i can bike ther?... haha...
27. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #27 26th July 2009, 18:31

    haha u mean HDi setup lol, erm u could like!
28. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #28 26th July 2009, 18:37

    hdi is the gti ...
29. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #29 26th July 2009, 18:49

    yeah yeah if u say so haha
30. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #30 26th July 2009, 22:40

    you know it is... you just dont like me having anything... hahahahaha...
31. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #31 26th July 2009, 22:42

    lmfao fair enough lol, what u been doin all night then anyway? i though u myte of been out and about on ur bike lmfao
32. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #32 26th July 2009, 22:47

    funny fucka... been watchin tele al night... tis borin as...
33. Cracker Regular Poster Joined: Mar 2007 Newcastle Posts: 342 Saxo Mk2 VTR Icelandic Grey

    #33 26th July 2009, 23:13

    mm i know the feeling! nout else to do on a sunday night though is there!
34. digital Regular Poster Joined: Jun 2009 Newcastle... Posts: 431 mk2 vtr

    #34 26th July 2009, 23:17

    theres always driving about... but the wind in my face doesnt realy do it for me...